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Has anyone noticed how well Antawn Jamison is playing?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Da Man, Jan 27, 2000.

  1. Da Man

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    I know it's the Golden State Warriors and know one really cares. But I like Jamison. He's one of the really good guys in the league. People were so quick to label him as a bust after just one year, but I had a feeling his game would come around. I just wanted everyone to know that Jamison doesn't look like the same bust anymore.

    I remember someone before the season was asking for some fantasy players that might surprise this year. I stated my position that Jamison had a good chance at a break through season and he has delivered.

    19.1 ppg, 8.5 rpg. He has had a few monster games since the inception of the new millennium and I'm happy for the guy. I'm officially part of the new crusade to point out good guys who are having good seasons. No more of this obsession with good players who are bad guys, like that Hakeem guy.......
     
  2. heypartner

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    not tonight!!!
     
  3. sir scarvajal

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    I like Jamision as well. I think his combination of size and quickness could make him an invaluable finisher, defender and rebounder, in the the right situation. I don't think he will ever be the dominant offensive player GS was looking for, but he could be a very good team player.

    A lot of discussions on this board have talked about a McGrady trade (for some combination of Mobley plus Walt, Thomas and/or Drew), I wonder if Jamision should get similar attention. His recent outstanding performances might make him harder to get then he would have been maybe a month ago, but GS desperately needs some young guards and we can put togther a nice package (I am a big Mobley fan but recognize the sizeable and extremely athletic forward is a bigger need for us). Also I haven't seen McGrady much, how would people compare these two guys??

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  4. Francis3

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    If I had a choice between Antawn Jamison and Tracy Mcgrady. I would take Jamison in a second. This guy has alot of talent. He can score and rebound. Really nice player to watch.
     
  5. Azim da Dream

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    Jamison is having an awesome year. People tend to forget that it was he, not Vince Carter, that was the go-to-guy for the Tar Heels. Vince himself has said this guy is for real, and it is only a matter of time before he erupts. The thing is, he's been doing good for awhile, but because he plays with a no-name team, he is not getting near the attention he deserves.

    As dumb as the Warriors management have been in recent years giving up the likes of Penny Hardaway, Chris Webber, Latrell Spreewell, Tom Gugliotta, Mitch Richmond and Tim Hardaway among others, I would think they have learned their lesson of being embarrassed, and keep this guy.

    I haven't seen enough of him to accurately compare him to McGrady, but I don't think McGrady is much superior, if at all to Jamison. He is versatile just like TMac and apparently is their starting center today. Right now, if you ask V.Carter who he would want between the two, I'm almost certain he would want his former college teammate over his cousin in a heartbeat.

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  6. Da Man

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    McGrady and Jamison have two completely different styles. Jamsion is an exclusive front court player who slashes and posts up for his points. Not an adept ball handler. Good athleticism. Very quick leaper. Not necessarily a high leaper, but a quick one. Gets off two jumps before most guys jump once for the boards. His quick leaping is the reason why he's arguably the best rebounding SF in the league. Has a great sense for the ball. I compared him to a Rodman coming out of college. His low post moves are best described as frantic. He pivots, reverse pivots, and justdoes a lot of spin moves to get off his quick release. Has an above average jump hook to boot. He can get in a little trouble on the defensive end guarding the quicker SF on the perimeter. He measures out at 6'7" instead of hi 6'9" listed height. Can play effectively the 3 and 4.

    McGrady is a legit 6'8" perimeter oriented player. Ideal position is the 3. But can play both guard position with some effectiveness. I consider him the 2nd BEST athlete in the NBA after his cousin Vince. Remarkable quickness and explosive vertical. Averages 1.9 BPG which is ridiculous for a SF. Also averages 13.6 ppg , 2.8 apg, and 5.1 rpg in only 26.4 MPG. Shoots a very respect 46.4% which is right around where Jamison shoots.
    McGrady is still just 20 years old and he has one of the highest potential ceilings in the NBA. I'd take McGrady hands down. You just don't pass on that kind of talent even though i do appreciate Jamison's unique game.


    If you want to see an amazing play that shows the explosiveness of McGrady, go to http://www.nba.com/news/dunk_rosters.html#top

    McGrady steals the pass and takes it all the way to dunk just about 18 inches inside the free throw line for a dunk in a game. Just hit the above link and scroll down some to find the movie to see McGrady's dunk.

    Disregard the top link. This link will directly download the movie for you.
    http://www.nba.com/theater/video/mcgrady_dunk_3_cc903.avi



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  7. sir scarvajal

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    Thanks for the breakdown Da Man. The block figure for McGrady is interesting and impressive, especially given his modest minutes. Sounds like different styles, both of which I think would compliment Stevie though. I really want the Rockets to get a longer athletic forward, both of whom fit the bill. I would much prefer either to Mash, as these guys are a lot younger. I would really do a full court press towards bringing either of them here. I also think we have some good expendable value in Mobley, Thomas and Drew (especially Mobes, who I wouldn't let go except for really high potential guys like these). In fact we perhaps have more value (youth, potential, and in Mobes case, decent performace already) at the guards than most our trade competitors do. We also have good picks. I think we should at least explore.
     
  8. gr8-1

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    Jamison is a tweener, i think he may have trouble guarding some of the quicker 3's and may get overpowered by a 4. But, i guess it works the same the other way also. He is gonna be a solid, if not spectacular pro.

    Mcgrady is a superb athlete, i dont know if he's #2, but he's prolly top 5. I think you have to give garnett a slight edge on Tracy, but thats just my opinion. Also think Hardaway or even a michael finley is comparable athletically. And of course you have steve and kobe.
    I havent seen toronto play much, but is it me, or do you guys think that Tracy may have better basketball skills then vince ? I know vince is a better scorer, but tracy reminds me of a more athletic scottie pippen.

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  9. thacabbage

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    Jamison or McGrady? McGrady hands down. Thanks to Da Man for that great comparison, there is nothing left that needs to be said. Comparing the two is like comparing apples to oranges. Jamison played power forward in college, and is more of a postup player, yet he has developed a nice outside game since turning pro. McGrady is a totally different type of player. His forte is beating his man off the dribble and stuffing it through. He is also excellent at that little medium range jumper. Incredible ball-handling ability for a small forward. On those nights when Stevie is unconscious from the field, we could just switch the ball handling duties over to McGrady, and let Francis roam. What else is there to say...athletically, he is the total package. He is 6'9, can jump like Vince Carter, handle like a point guard, and is only 20 years old. A McGrady/Francis duo would be very entertaining from a fan's point of view. No disrespect to the hard-working Jamison, but McGrady is a stud.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    I would take Jamison. He is more polished, comes from a disciplined program, and knows how to win.

    You don't win COLLEGE PLAYER OF THE YEAR by being a stiff.

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  11. rocketteen

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    I got an idea, how about we keep Mobley, Thomas, Francis, Cato, Dream, our draft picks and give the Raptors whatever else they want.
    I like Drew, but I definitely would include him in a trade to get T-Mac.
    He's gonna ask for the maximum this year and I would like to pick him via free-agency but unless we clear some cap space that won't happen. I also don't think he'll want to do a hush hush-under the table deal since he'll be able to get that guaranteed max from another team. But u never know.
    Truth is, we need him, Rudy would agree since he has expressed interest in him b/f but couldn't work something out. This guy puts up crazy numbers as a reserve and an angry one at that. He can really flourish in our system while getting his jack and 5-10 more minutes per game.
    Another thing, remind yourself that this kid is only 20 years old. If we can get him, he and Francis will complement each other's game for years to come.
     
  12. Da Man

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    Calbert Chaney won the college player of the year. I guess he's a little bit better than a stiff. But I'm pretty sure Ed O'Bannon won college player of the year in 95 and he is the epitomy of a stiff.

    But Jamison is definately not a stiff.
     
  13. M-&-M

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    I had not noticed, mostly cause the Warriors are 9-32, but you are right. His stats are up considerably from last year. Just think how scary Carolina would have been if Carter and Jamison had stayed their final years?.........
     

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