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Mike James is still a ballhog

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch City1993, Oct 24, 2007.

  1. Easy

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    I have no problem with James shooting a lot, especially when he is hitting. I do have a problem if he shoots when a teammate is more open than him, even if he is the hottest guy on the floor. In fact, I have a problem with anybody doing that, including T-Mac.

    Anyways, it's no big deal because we are loaded now.

    When James is hogging the ball, yank him and put in Rafer.
    When Rafer starts shooting bricks, yank him and put in Francis.
    When Francis is making stupid decisions, yank him and put in Brooks.
    When Brooks is abused by a bigger PG, yank him and put James back in.
    When... okay you get the drift. :D

    Wait, I forgot that Adelman said he didn't like playing guys in spotty minutes. Fire the coach!!
     
  2. koopa

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    mj is a great shooter, i value his judgment, not his fault the others are sucking. not his fault yao was sucking. He had a good fg percentage anyway. the rest should just get the rebound and score
     
  3. krockets

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    People are keep saying MJ is much better in shooting, but it's not as much as most ppl think. The difference between them is really just "ONE" shot...

    MJ: 7/17 = 41.1%
    Yao: 4/11 = 36.4%
    Tmac: 4/11 = 36.4%

    If Yao/Tmac make one more shot, 5/11 = 45.5%; if they attemp one more and make it, it's 5/12 = 41.7%, in either case, the percentage could be still higher than MJ.
     
  4. SamFisher

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    1. they didn't.
    2. you didn't adjust for 3 point shots (eFG%)
    3. they turned it over more on fewer touches

    They sucked. He did what he is paid to do. Get over it.
     
  5. gta

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    Mike James is who he is. Why do you think Toronto let him go after he put Career numbers there?
    You shouldn't be surprised
     
  6. krockets

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    To be fair, we could just compare the 2-point %:

    MJ: overall 7/17 = 41%, 2-point 4/13 = 30.8%, 3-points 3/4=75%
    Yao: 2-point 4/11 = 36.4%
    Tmac: 2- point 4/11 = 36.4% (zero 3-point attempt)

    I agree MJ shoots 3 pointers much better, but 2-points wise, he is worse than Yao/Tmac, and he still attempted 13 times while only making 4.
     
  7. AMS

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    good analysis. :rolleyes:
     
  8. SamFisher

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    LOL, I take it's no coincidence you decided to resurface on this topic when search is turned off?
     
  9. AMS

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    I hate people who choose to overlook Mike James blatant ballhogging. Its like wtf did you not watch the same game that I DID!!! Your eyes were closed in the playoff series vs the Mavs???????????
     
  10. rayden

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    Mike James is good .... only for our second unit. Haha he did get an assist tonight after a broken play.
     
  11. SamFisher

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    With the 1st pick in the 1984 NBA draft...
     
  12. AMS

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    Sam Bowie?
     
  13. wazzupmane?

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    I'm happy with the way MJ played as the starter. He was only doing what the defense gave him. The rest of the starters were missing their shots and Yao couldn't get in position to do anything. If you look at the game closely, most of James' shots came after someone passed it to him to take the shot or he drove to the basket. He did miss some opportunities to move the ball around, but who dosen't, you can't magnify a couple of plays and project this as being the norm. How many shots did Rafer take last year that you wished he would just pass up? The game was just ugly and every now and then this happens. I'm sure if everyone else made more of their baskets we would not be having this discussion. What matters is that we were in the lead most of the ugly game. We're not going to blow everyone away every game so it's good to know that we have more options when something isn't going well. Another thing I liked about James' aggresive nature was to get the other team's point gaurds in foul trouble just ask Conley Jr about James, and Navarro about Francis. Obviously Rafer did not pose this threat last year. Ok before you all say it Lowery was the man yesterday and our point gaurds could do nothing about it. :)
     
  14. devin23

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    Great post man. My exact same thought.
     
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    i second this. i'm not sure what adelman was thinking last night when luther was the primary ball handler for the last 3 minutes. luther has no handles, he has no business bringing the ball up the court, and he has no business being the primary ballhandler, preseason or not. steve started to come alive in the OT's, and adelman should have put the ball in HIS hands, not luther. everytime he stands at the top of the 3 point line and he starts to dribble, where is he going? what is he going to do with the ball? he's not a good passer, and he can't finish. he has one weapon, and that is to shoot. steve drives, he creates, and he may hold the ball to long sometimes, but luther does that just as well, not because he is a ball hog but because he doesn't know any better. at least steve FINDS something.

    i really hope adelman never EVER puts head at the point, anyone but head, ESPECIALLY in crunch time
     
  16. jrsr34

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    Haha...that's too funny.

    But seriously, he is a great scoring threat off the bench when TMAC is resting and can knock down the trey Yao is double teamed. Rafer is probably a better starting PG for TMac because MJ will jack it up every chance he gets.
     
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    You have to understand that it is the preseason. All Adelman is doing is testing out things, and seeing which players fit where. I agree with you that Luther has no business being the point guard, but its just the preseason.
     
  18. Rockets111

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    It's still early but James is doing a whole lot of nothin'.

    I'll salvage hope that he can find a place on this team. Those who thought he was better than Alston for this team are finding out that's hardly the case.

    BUT...

    I'll wait until at least midseason to make an accurate assessment. But James is who we thought he was -- a player who's pointless if he's not hitting shots. He doesn't play much defense. He doesn't create for others. And he certainly doesn't know his role in the offense.

    I don't see much difference between him and Novak, except for that they play different positions. They're both instant offense players who offer little to nothing else.

    At this point, it looks safe to say that Howard would be more valuable than James. At least if he's not scoring, he's defending, rebounding and understands his role within a system.

    I hope James proves me wrong, for the sake of the team, but it's looking more and more like that breakout year in Toronto was more of an aberration than an indication of his true talents and worth to a team.
     
  19. durvasa

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    Mike can score off the dribble and create shots for himself and others. He can put pressure on defenses in transition. Novak can't do anything but catch and shoot.

    And there's a huge, HUGE, difference between Mike's short comings on defense and Novak's utter ineptitude on that end.
     
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    ROFL funny but i think rafer is the most efficient PG
    id go with stevie next cuz his strength and driving abilities
    Mjs defense is overrated and he is a ball hog..ruin all offensive flow
     

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