What has Hillary Clinton ever accomplished in life?

I don't think most people understand the danger of being in debt as a nation and what to do about it.

Few of the candidates on either side talk about it.

Vote for Ron Paul for conscience sake.

 

Four pages libpigs and you've posted nothing but goose eggs ~ face the facts Helliroid has nothing besides a degree from Wellesley and a famous last name.

 

And most probably Madame President!

 

I agree. THe past was a mess, and we've learned from our mistake. Never again can we let a sub-standard president gain office.

Doesnt hilleroid have a law degree? I mean, certain that was beyond Bush's capability. But nevertheless, hillary is so distasteful, that she might actually be more divisive a president that bush.

 

It doesn't matter what she's accomplished. Republicans and Democrats, the thoroughly ensconced dirtbags of DC political culture, are all good at the game, some better than others - but they're all playing the wrong game (because they're no good at the important stuff), and the rest of us are gonna pay for it once they've all gone home to their fenced retreats.

 

This is true, and I think it's way past time we stopped doling out our limited attention spans to those information merchants that deliver a damaged product.

Why haven't impeachment precedings begun? She's only a Senator, but you would think she had the means to get the ball rolling (and you would hope she had the inclination).

And this brings me quite nicely to the reason I probably won't vote for Hillary Rodham Clinton. Now that she's actually in power, where are her balls? (sorry) The chips are coming down, and her cards no longer seam as strong as her background would suggest. To avoid being any more obscure, she is particularly irksome to me due to her: [1]votes supporting the wars in Iraq and (to a lesser extent) Afghanistan, [2]aformentioned lack of zeal in ridding the executive office of its demonstratably criminal administration, and [3]more generally in her willing participation in an electoral process that becomes increasingly corrupt election cycle to election cycle.

Hillary Clinton obviously has the sheer ability necessary to run our government, which is more than can be said for Jr., and she seems to have some interest in the value of government for organizing societies, which is more than can be said for Ronald Reagan or Ron Paul, in the extreme case. Unfortunately, her behavior as an elected public official suggest that when measuring a candidate's willingness to take Constitutional responsibility, she falls short of acceptable and way short of ideal (think JL3 short).

 

Yale Law, and she was a law professor at Arkansas. Meanwhile, W. got rejected at UT Law, then got into Harvard Business School (small coincidence his Senator grampa helped found Brown Brothers Harriman, or that his Congressman/Ambassador/RNC-Chair dad ran what is now Pennzoil).

 

I'm not a fan of Hillary, although I'd vote for her if she gets the nod, but her husband managed to balance the budget and run a surplus. From what I understand, he'd be living in the White House. Couldn't hurt having him around.



D&D. How About We Keep it Civil. Let's work on it.

(Impeach Bush!)

 

It is funny that when he was in office people joked about Hillary being the real president. Now if she wins people will joke about him being the real president. Either way, though, they still will have both "been" president.

TJ - her biggest accomplishment politically might have been her crazy befriending of some very conservative senators...guys who are on record saying they thought she was evil before now apparently love her. They do not realize that she is still evil but has just brainwashed them. So that needs to be added after the "mad broomstick skills" bullet on her list - wicked mind cool control over old white guys.

 

The debt increased under Clinton,
the difference between a deficit and debt is significant,

that is what is wrong with our perceptions they are formed by 'media' spins

surpluses and deficits are illusions created by robbing trust funds.

a deficit means that we spent more than we budgeted
a surplus means we spent less than we budgeted

budgets are meaningless we still borrowed money, none of the debt was paid down, it was increased.

Once we realize we are running the govt. off borrowed money and not tax revenues the better off we will be.

Understand that Clinton did not lower the debt!

 

why not? bush beat his democratic opponents even he had lower qualifications than them right? so how did bush win? by stealing the elections?

 

Concur. The federal government owes Social Security more than $2 trillion. I realize it's all "federal" money but retiring Americans will get very little for the money they paid into the system.

It's like borrowing virtually all of your kid's college fund savings and then being forced to send him/her to community college rather than a decent university.

 

the govt. can cook the books better than Enron and get away with it because the media buys in.

we are very media driven consumers... what our favorite political analysts tells us must be true.

thumbs- it's a mess, but we shouldn't have to suffer much until the pressure to increase taxes and more dollar devaluation (inflation) hits

I think if you are over 50 like me you might not feel the worst of it all.
Future generations will suffer.

It once took one wage earner in America to make the middle class fairly prosperous life, now on average it takes two wage earners under stress for the majority of the nation and we are pushing to the point that it will take three wage earners in a family to maintain the standard of living we now enjoy.

Something has to give.

Most families in the north struggle to make ends meet at an income level of 50,000 yr

In the Houston area this is still a liveable income level, but most families are needing close to 60k-70k due to their debt load, energy/utility/food costs etc.

this is why personal savings are at historic lows- everyone is starting to be sqeezed.

there are people making 100,000 yr + who will soon be feeling a pinch because most of the bubbles that were fueling the economy are depleted.

The tech bubble is over, the real estate bubble is over, cheap imports are helping but manufacturing is still shrinking and jobs are going to get tighter.

Just read the news, do you hear more about companies hiring 3,000 employees or downsizing by 3,000 employees?

The stuff is flying fast towards the fan.

So we are going to elect a president who will pad personal pockets, drive us closer to socialist globalist control- stripping us from economic opportunity, personal responsibility and individual freedoms. No Thanks - Bush was enough of that for me.

The Fed bankers super-wealthy and very smart. They will find a way to hopefully keep us afloat and lend us money as a nation.

The American Dream is on life support.

But I don't think we should worry. This isn't heaven and God is in control.

 

With much, much respect, rhester, I disagree. What do I know, but I think the idea of God micromanaging the American economy is a flawed idea. There is so much evidence that he put brains in our heads, for better or worse, and a lot of this is up to us.

See "God made the world, now we must finish it" parables.

I digress majorly.

 

would that be the same brown brothers harriman that had their assets seized under the trading with the enemy act for financial dealings w/ nazis?

 

yale law > any other professional degree

 

regent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yale

"law is more than a profession...its a calling"

http://www.regent.edu/acad/schlaw/

 

yes the debt increased but during the clinton administration but the general trend of the national debt was beginning to level off. i cant say that the economy would have carried us through the following administration and allowed us to start decreasing the national debt. but you have to give clinton some credit for the fact that he was able to decrease the rate of increase.

if you look at the graphic on the following page, during the clinton administration, the slope of the curve goes from positive to nearly zero. after bush entered office the slope shot right back up...



i dont think the next president, no matter who it is, will beable to bring the debt back down. clinton tried but we have to realize that the interest alone is staggering...

 

Agree, I did not mean in control of our credit cards and the Federal Reserve Bank, I meant that I am not going to worry because my future is in His hands.

I don't get worked up about all this, too busy

I think Christians should find practical ways of making life better for others.
Love your neighbor stuff.