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What has Hillary Clinton ever accomplished in life?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by El_Conquistador, Oct 23, 2007.

  1. GladiatoRowdy

    GladiatoRowdy Member

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    Some of us might take you seriously or even respond to your inquiries if you would answer the simple questions asked of you.

    However, you have proven conclusively again and again that you are nothing more than a partisan shill who cannot make argumants past the GOP talking points memos that you get from Faux News.

    Prove me wrong by accepting my challenge, coward.
     
  2. Ottomaton

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    The thing with Bush is that all along the drones have been saying what a wonderful qualified man to run the country he is. If Hillary has a better resume, but is suddenly deemed 'lacking in the resume department' it shows what horrible hypocrites a specific group of people are. If you have a legitimate issue about experience as a qualifying factor, it should apply universally. I don’t necessarily hove to that viewpoint, but if you are going to eliminate candidates because they aren’t experienced enough, then that is at least a defensible position.

    But if you look at Hillary with this jaundiced eye and hoot and howl about the unfairness of it all and in the same breath give ‘W’ a free pass then you are just playing a part, the complaint is an excuse in a political game and you are full of a certain scatological metabolic byproducts.

    Respectfully, I think that McCain is simply too geriatric at this point. McCain has more public service experience and Hillary has a better private business resume. If you want, it is not unreasonable to say that McCain has a "better" resume.

    But McCain's "current state" of decrepitude has to come into play. I seriously would not bet on him definitely being lucid in 4+ years. It is very clear from the last election cycle to now how much he has aged. I seriously think he was the best candidate in 2000, but I also really think he's past the point where I would be comfortable with him.

    I don't know if this is fair or not but it is honestly how I feel about him.

    As I already stated, beyond McCain it appears to me that Hillary's resume stacks up decidedly well against anybody's.
     
  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    let me add to the, I would have voted for mccain in 2000. and you're right ottomaton, he has aged considerably.
     
  4. DonkeyMagic

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    i'd agree with that. I dont know if its just his age or that he is just so uncomfortable trying to play the presidential part. I dont think its just easy for him, but i do agree he was probably the best in 2000
     
  5. jo mama

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    just offering another comparison for you bush boys to soak up. trader faults hillary for being at woodstock (was she?) whilst mccain was a pow. how is that different than comparing kerry vs. bush in the 60's?
     
  6. thumbs

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    Not sure. I'm trying to find some of her wild eyed, tie-dyed, half fried pictures from that phase of her college daze. :D
     
  7. Invisible Fan

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    Bill: "Where's the cushion to push in?"
     
  8. danny317

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    trader jorge, your posts are antagonistic and you instigate arguments where there is no black or white answer.

    your arguments are circular.

    you refuse to accept any counterpoint if it doesnt agree w/ your opinion.

    why do you ignore posts that directly refute your arguments?

    i dont know whether youre a hard core republican, a comedian ( a la steven colbert), or someone working for the democratic party trying to whip up rage against the republican party.

    if youre a hard core republican, youre not do the republicans any favors by making rediculous posts on this bbs.

    if youre a comedian, then the jokes on us.

    if youre working for the democratic party, you dont have to make these posts bc all the sex scandals + iraq + unchecked spending + ........ means that the american public is ready to "punish" the republican party at the polls next year.

    sadly enough, when the republicans swept into power, america wanted reform and accountability. they were tired of scandals. but they got a boat load of them from the current administration.

    you can blast on hillary for "not being experienced" or "not accomplishing anything of significance" if that makes you feel better about the republican party's prospects for next year. but just know that the republicans are "drawing dead" this election. their best bet is to regroup, and reach across the aisle and work w/ the democrats to do what is best for this country.
     
  9. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    damn,

    now that was a good post
     
  10. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    not to continue a discussion on trader but I want to believe he is joking, but you know what, these are all republican talking points. so he's not joking. so even though he isn't joking, this is the party that has produced the last president for eight years, and majority in congress till last year. so even though he's not joking, the joke's on us.
     
  11. leroy

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    Maybe danny317 has it right. Maybe TJ is a Democratic party employee using us as a focus group.
     
  12. rhester

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    She will be the next president.

    Please save this post.

    She will be worse than Bush and that will be quite an accomplishment. ;)
     
  13. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Worse in terms of failed policies, PR, or that America will struggle in the years ahead? (Hope that question makes sense... I'm really interested in your take... b/c I strangely agree w' you.)
     
  14. ROXTXIA

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    And George W. Bush was qualified to be President....why?

    We're here with this former resident of New Orleans to ask him why W was qualified to be President. Sir? Sir?

    Oh, that's right. Tombstones can't talk.
     
  15. rimrocker

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    Hope not.
    No thanks.
    No way.
     
  16. rhester

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    failed policies and America will struggle

    we need a leader to face the struggles ahead that has the character, wisdom, patience, courage, leadership and intelligence to guide us through some very difficult times,

    she is intelligent, but she falls very short in all the other areas IMHO

    Bush just made me realize we are sinking... he was terrible

    But she scares me. I am praying for my children and grandchildren... I will probably miss the worst of it.
     
  17. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    I agree with our reverend, only in that America will be waking up to some significant problems between 2008 and 2012, and the president elect will be living the hell created by the 8 or more years that came before her (or him).

    climate, water, global trade, technology policies, stoking the middle east, etc... hitting the fan.

    Usually I do not let myself think about it.
     
  18. NewYorker

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    After Bush, having a blank piece of paper as a resume qualifies you to be president.
     
  19. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    The 'Bush Standard' that is being raised by some here is irrelevant. The standards that Hillaroid must beat are those of her opponents. The Republican field is so much more qualified to be President than she is, based on their accomplishments. Pretty hard to argue that, really. She has never been solely responsible for a group of people. Never.
     
  20. rhester

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    debt is the big one.

    we are running out of bubbles, the best thing we have going for us right now is our military power- as far as our debt the economy is all about continued control of energy resources and keeping the dollar floating... what do we make and sell anymore? p*rn? Beer? TV shows? Movies? Entertainers? China and third world nations are producing the goods, we are over indebted consumers who live off the strength of the dollar and bombs.

    it would be scary if I wasn't a Christian...

    but it is sad that one day the ever increasing 9 trillion debt is going to bite us. That doesn't include derivitive debt that I hear is about 40 trillion (and if anyone can sensibly explain derivitives and the magnitude of derivitive debt- I would greatly appreciate it, the more I read about it the less I understand it) :D
     

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