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Could the Rockets Have the Highest Scoring Offense in the League?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by plutoblue11, Oct 20, 2007.

  1. A_3PO

    A_3PO Member

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    Yes sir. If there is a stat you want to keep an eye on, that is the one.
     
  2. JeopardE

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    I actually did see your post, and I was wondering why in the world you would be talking about preseason point differential. ;)
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Because it is so fricken large.....I mean it is irrelevant in that it is preseason, but dang 18 points more than their opponents?

    That says the team is catching on more quickly than a lot of us thought.

    DD
     
  4. cheshire

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    I agree that points differential is more critical than being the highest scoring team in the league.

    I can envision games against the weaker teams where Adelman rests the starters more because of the blow outs.

    There is always the possibility that all will converge and this talented and deep Rockets team on paper becomes a juggernaut in the regular season and lead us to a championship.
     
  5. thedopefiend

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    there is a city called Phoenix :(
     
  6. Elvislives

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    APOCALYPSE NOW!
     
  7. Elvislives

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    Especially against quality opponents like Pana (37 pt diff) and Dallas Scrub team.
     
  8. seaweed

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    That'll translate into a 15ppg lead in the final second.
     
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    If Rockets could, that is no a good news.
    It is hard to make the balance between Defense and Offense. If have the highest scoring offense in the league, that basically means we give up the D like Suns. That is the reason why Suns can not reach the Finals even once. Otherwise, Adelman also thanks VGD for his reserved wealth of D.
     
  10. durvasa

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    There's no chance. We could be one of the top offensive teams in the league, but in terms of scoring I think we'll be around 100-102 ppg.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    Did the Spurs beat Pana by that much?

    I know...irrelevant...still cool to look at !!!

    DD
     
  12. rofflesaurus

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    i dont think we'll beat phoenix, the mavs or even the warriors in scoring. we dont have the many 3 point threats as they do. those teams have at least 5 guys who can light it up behind the arc on any night. all we have is Luther Head and Battier. Mike James also, but he can be streaky sometimes.
     
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    we could beat the mavs. they only avg 100 last yr and we could surpass that. they're not as up tempo as we think.
     
  14. kevtse

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    No since they will still put lots of energy on the defensive end..... :)
     
  15. darnbni99a

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    yes no maybe so
     
  16. rofflesaurus

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    we could probably score higher than the mavs, but the mavs have so many great 3 point threats.

    Dirk
    Terry (rockets killer)
    Howard
    Devean George (rockets killer #2)
    Eddie Jones
    Devin Harris
    and maybe Ager
     
  17. Barkley

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    We really could. Especially with Adelman the games vs. Mavs, Suns, Golden State could be really interestin'. Earlier we won some games against them because of great performance of McGRady or Yao. Now it would probably be abou a whole team. So that really should be an interestin to see how we're gonna play against suns, mavs, etc.
     
  18. plutoblue11

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    I believe that's one of the biggest misconceptions in basketball today. Just because you have high scoring offense doesn't mean you don't have great defense. I don't know if we will lead in offense, because of teams like GSW and the Suns....statistically.

    I should've asked the question differently and asked if we would have the *best* offense, instead of the highest scoring. You don't necessarily need to be the highest scoring to have the best offense...I think the best offense comes from the teams who score the most easily or can beat any defense or has many different ways to score. We might have the most eff% offense.

    I believe overall the Rockets have much more they can do offensively than both Warriors and Suns. We have three ... three fantastic post players (Yao, Scola, and Bonzi), great half-court offense, alot of players who can get to basket (T-Mac, James, Francis, Wells, Head, Alston - sometimes, and maybe Brooks), and lastly a deep line-up where we could go big or small and still be just as effective....whether it was slow run down the clock half court game or a high scoring run and shoot type of game. I don't really think teams, like the Warriors, Suns, and Bucks have a true or really great low post game. Which is might be good reason they never advance to far in playoffs...

    Don't get me wrong, I think they have a fantastic offense, but when I hear that they are one of the best of all time, or being compared to the likes of 80s Lakers, 80s Celtics, and even better than the Bulls 90 and even the Spurs I kinda laugh. The Lakers of 80s ran the ball with perfection sort of similar to the Suns, but they also had one of the greatest centers in the history of game (great post game).

    I think the Celtics are another good example, even though they really didn't run and gun, they still were a high scoring team for any period of basketball...they were mostly good for good ball rotation, and almost killer unstoppable post game (McHale and Parrish) with Bird/Johnson/Maxwell on the wing. TWhich created almost a perfect half-court offense.

    Bulls and Lakers offense were based on a triangle between probably some of greatest players of all time. Shaq and M.J. probably two of greatest post players of all time.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/ (NBA Champions)

    Overall statistics

    2002-2003 Spurs: Points Per 100 Possessions: Offense = 105.8 (6th out of 29), Defense = 99.5 (3rd out of 29), League = 103.6
    RPI: .564 (1st out of 29)


    2001-02 Los Angeles Lakers: Points Per 100 Possessions: Offense = 109.3 (3rd out of 29), Defense = 101.8 (7th out of 29), League = 104.5
    RPI: .555 (3rd out of 29)


    1997-98 Chicago Bulls:points Per 100 Possessions: Offense = 107.8 (9th out of 29), Defense = 99.7 (3rd out of 29), League = 105.0
    RPI: .569 (1st out of 29)

    1996-97 Chicago Bulls: Points Per 100 Possessions: Offense = 114.8 (1st out of 29), Defense = 102.0 (4th out of 29), League = 106.7
    RPI: .589 (1st out of 29)


    1995-96 Chicago Bulls:points Per 100 Possessions: Offense = 115.8 (1st out of 29), Defense = 101.2 (1st out of 29), League = 107.6
    RPI: .595 (1st out of 29)

    1991-92 Chicago Bulls: Points Per 100 Possessions: Offense = 115.7 (1st out of 27), Defense = 104.3 (4th out of 27), League = 108.2
    RPI: .579 (1st out of 27)

    1988-89 Detroit Pistons: Points Per 100 Possessions: Offense = 110.9 (8th out of 25), Defense = 104.6 (3rd out of 25), League = 107.8
    RPI: .578 (1st out of 25)

    1986-87 Los Angeles Lakers: Points Per 100 Possessions: Offense = 115.7 (1st out of 23), Defense = 106.4 (6th out of 23), League = 108.3
    RPI: .566 (1st out of 23)

    1985-86 Boston Celtics: Points Per 100 Possessions: Offense = 111.8 (3rd out of 23), Defense = 102.5 (1st out of 23), League = 107.2
    RPI: .579 (1st out of 23)


    1984-85 Los Angeles Lakers: Points Per 100 Possessions: Offense = 114.2 (1st out of 23), Defense = 106.9 (6th out of 23), League = 107.9
    RPI: .557 (2nd out of 23)
     
  19. worldlyman

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    Indeed.

    The Lakers were still a fastbreak-oriented powerhouse during the 1989-90 season, the one after their prior repeat championships of '88 and '89. The difference was that Jabbar was already gone for the '90 season. Those Lakers still won 60 plus games but had difficulty with the heavy underdog Olajuwon and the Rockets (low 40 win team) in the first round. Then when the second round came along, the Tom Chambers/Kevin Johnson era Phoenix Suns who used a stout, serviceable but unspectacular center by the name of Mark West to clog that Lakers break. Result, Phoenix 4-1 over Los Angeles in the second round of the 1990 Western Conference Finals. It was the final year of Showtime as we knew it (next year new coach Mike Dunleavy would install a predominant half-court style to adjust for the aging talent). Imagine that year if the Lakers had Jabbar one last time.

    So yes, a running team still needs good low post presence to increase its odds of winning it all.

    And Yao is a silky, finesse type shooter, a prototype more similar to Jabbar than to a more interior mix-n-match rough-houser like Olajuwon or Ewing. So fluid ball movement with opportunity running...it really looks good for the Rockets.
     
  20. denniscd

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    we averaged 97 last year. we will average 102 this year. we were 5th in point differential last year....right arond 5 per game. we will be at 6 or higher this year.
     

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