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[Official] $400 40GB PS3 To Be Released on November 2nd, $100 Price Cut for 80GB PS3

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  1. Apollo Creed

    Apollo Creed Contributing Member

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    Well shucks...and I just bought the premium 360 yesterday for 350 with the 2 free games...

    I kinda wanted the PS3...oh well...I only wanted it for the games that are coming out in a year or two, not what's out right now. Wait for further price drops, I suppose.
     
    #21 Apollo Creed, Oct 18, 2007
  2. JuLiO-R-

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    Will the 40GB model have Wifi? That's all that matters to me.
     
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  3. RC Cola

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    That has more to do with Stringer's desire to change Sony more into a software company instead of a hardware company (or at least a company that specializes in chip production). It has its benefits, but it is really expensive to maintain, and Stringer feels as though the costs aren't worth it anymore, especially when he's trying to keep the company profitable.

    I think it could hurt them in the long-term, but it should help in the short-term. Sony can basically leave Cell development up to Toshiba and IBM, and work together with Toshiba to reduce costs for the PS3 and probably the PS4, which will probably use the Cell architecture (maybe developers won't complain as much with that system once they actually attempt to figure Cell out with the PS3).

    They sort of had it down to one chip. For the 60GB PS3s, I believe they used the same chip from actual PS2s that has both the EE and GS (the Dragon Chip, or something like that IIRC). The 80GB PS3s use just the GS (or a chip like it). Well, that and the 32MB of proprietary ram that they used in the PS2.

    My guesstimate actually isn't too far from yours. I think analysts had the EE+GS and 32MB of ram at about $35 or so earlier in the year. I was basically trying to say that by cutting all that out, and possibly making revisions on the hardware due to cutting that stuff out (smaller motherboard, smaller power supply, cheaper cooling, etc.), they could probably save ~$50 or more (just a guess). At that point, it allows Sony to consider a SKU that is $100 cheaper, especially by offering features in a more expensive SKU that some people may want and pay extra for.

    And FWIW, the PS2 tech is about 7 year old technology...almost 10 years old.

    That's basically how I understood it. I was thinking that Sony was probably paying about the same for 80GB HDDs, and maybe even less. The 80GB PS3 probably costs the same or even cheaper than the 60GB PS3...which is why it was easy to see that Sony would cut the price of the 80GB PS3 once 60GB PS3s started to go out of stock. Although for some strange reason, a lot of industry people didn't seem to put that together after E3.

    Yes.
     
    #23 RC Cola, Oct 18, 2007
  4. HipHopSince1981

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    Thanks RC Cola..had all the same questions everyone else is asking before coming to this thread..and u've answered them all.. [​IMG]
     
    #24 HipHopSince1981, Oct 18, 2007
  5. yobod

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    theonly ps3 title im lookng forward to is metal gear 4 which doesnt come out for another 5 months at least. so i think ill wait till then. hopefully theres another price drop by then.

    can you guys think of any others?
     
    #25 yobod, Oct 18, 2007
  6. bladeage

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    unreal tournament and uncharted
     
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  7. Brando2101

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    What's the motivation for picking up one of the many remaining 60 gb skus if the 80 gig is the same price?
     
    #27 Brando2101, Oct 18, 2007
  8. Mr Boo

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    60 gig deals with the backwards compatability via hardware, not software emulation like the 80 gig. As a result, the 60 gig backwards compatabile with a higher percentage of the PS2 games. If I'm wrong, I'm sure RC will correct me :)
     
    #28 Mr Boo, Oct 18, 2007
  9. Mr Boo

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    I think this gets lost in the shuffle, but recall PS3s are backwards compatabile with PS games as well (via software emulation) and from what I know, the 40 gig still retains this feature....and yes, I still have PS games.

    Edit: apologies to the double post, I think I caught something, I've been out of it.
     
    #29 Mr Boo, Oct 18, 2007
  10. ymc

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    #30 ymc, Oct 18, 2007
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    UT3 comes out on 360 also
     
    #31 SLrocket, Oct 18, 2007
  12. DanzelKun

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    #32 DanzelKun, Oct 18, 2007
  13. UTweezer

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    wow a $400 blu-ray player. YES!
     
    #33 UTweezer, Oct 18, 2007
  14. VesceySux

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    Is Sony the most r****ded corporation operating today? It's almost like they're trying to lose money, like some twisted Brewster's Millions scenario.

    Sony has some serious, serious issues with its market research department. And its PR group. And its pricing strategy team. And its product development department...
     
    #34 VesceySux, Oct 18, 2007
  15. Invisible Fan

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    I don't think it'll hurt them big as its competitors are also outsourcing hardware responsibilities to other companies.

    This does eliminate them as a hardware player who had ambitions to overcome Intel and Windows, but how many times have they tried and failed in that front? The Japanese don't have the expertise or insight to steward that industry.

    They've reinvented the wheel and have forgotten why they included PS1 BC in the PS2 in the first place.
     
    #35 Invisible Fan, Oct 18, 2007
  16. Drexlerfan22

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    Hey RC,

    Any idea if the 80GB model has the same BC as the original 60GB model? I keep getting conflicting reports on this... some say it's the same, some say the 80GB model's BC isn't quite as good.
     
    #36 Drexlerfan22, Oct 18, 2007
  17. redefined

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    RC,

    PS3 or 360?

    Just need a quick, simple, 3 character answer

    Thanks
     
    #37 redefined, Oct 18, 2007
  18. Drexlerfan22

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    #38 Drexlerfan22, Oct 18, 2007
  19. DanzelKun

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    I agree... I got a 60GB two or three days ago and have no regrets even with the price drop because that was the model I WANTED... People say "well I have a PS2 so I don't care about BC... " but c'mon! Upscaling! I don't want my PS2 games to look like ass on my HDTV...

    And judging by the link I posted earlier, they won't be re-adding BC as a software upgrade in the future either!
     
    #39 DanzelKun, Oct 18, 2007
  20. ymc

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    It is not as good but it is improving with each firmware update.
     
    #40 ymc, Oct 18, 2007
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