Yes they become a freee agent that the player can decide who he wants to play for with a new contract.
If a team wants Luther, they're gonna have to trade for him. The Rockets aren't going to release him, don't forget that we just gave him an extension (a small one but guaranteed money no less).
Can we make a contract with a player that says we will pay him more money than he could otherwise get with an NBA club, say 2x of what his current salary is, and have him leave the NBA for a year and play in some other league, and agree to only sign with the Rockets and not any other NBA organization once the contract is up? That way, with somebody like Mike Harris, we would keep his rights and not lose him to another team and he would get paid and financial security.
Won't work. You must trade salary for salary unless the team you are dealing with is under the salary cap (only New Orleans, I believe). You might want to trade our guys with 2 or more years for expiring contracts and draft picks if you can find somebody to do it. This is my point again: I don't believe anyone will do that until they see who we cut. Then if they are really hot to trot for Luther or Snyder they will deal with us during the season. So we don't necessarily keep the best player or the player that looks like they will fit the best, because these are not rotation guys. You keep those that other teams value the most.
Teams under the cap are not the only ones who can absorb a contract. There are teams with a Trade Exception or teams with medical exceptions. I know the Magic are applying for a medical exception for Tony Battie, that would allow them to sign a player who makes up to 2.6 million I believe without having to give up salary. Seems like it might be nice fit for Butler. Charlotte is another option for him with May missing the season. As for Trade Exceptions, I believe several teams have them. I think Seattle might have one from the Kurt Thomas deal, and possibly GS from the Richardson deal.
You guys forget something. One or more of these players may be a throw-in in a real trade. If someone is interested in one of our "locks", say Chuck Hayes for example, we might offer Hayes plus one or two of these bubble guys to get back something we want. This is more likely to happen than someone interested in getting one of our bubble guys straight up.
Rockets might have to offer cash or picks to entice teams with capspace or exceptions to make a trade. Small market poor ticket sales teams like Charlotte or New Orleans might be up for it. Otherwise teams would just wait until players are waived by the Rockets.
I disagree that this is more likely. I think Adelman and Morey are very happy with our rotation guys and aren't really interested in any big splash guys from other teams that would require we throw in a good player with the bottom of the bench guys.
Butler will not be cut so as Head. It makes no sense... More likely Justin Reed is leaving rather than JB...
So they don't have to make waiver claims and risk losing the player they want of ours to another team. Maybe the contractual rights of player as well would be maintained through trade, ala Bird Rights, option years, etc., not sure on that one though...
What you say would be true IF we didn't have to cut some good players simply because we have too many. However, if there is a 2-for-1 or 3-for-1 deal out there that can trim our roster AND upgrade a rotation position, I am pretty sure Morey will pull the trigger. And it is more likely that someone is interested in a rotation player than in an end of the bench guy. This is a new system. "Rotation" is only on paper. Everyone has to adjust anyway. So if you can upgrade some major parts, this is the time to do it without having to worry about "destroying" chemistry. And there is always the possibility that some team wants to dump salaries. They might want to trade a bigger contract for two smaller contracts, one of which can be cut right away.
I think you guys are all naive for saying no one wants to pick up our players such as JL3 through trades. Sure, teams know that they will cut him anyways, but the problem is they will hav to pay him the same minimum salary anyways. So the delimma for them becomes wht they hav to give bak to us. therefore i say Morey should trade JL3 + probably half a million for a conditional second round pick. this would work out great for both team if say the hornets truely wants him. that would be an wxample of integrative deal where both team gains. rockets get 800,000 x 2 saved -500,000 hornets in effect only pays300,000 for JL3.
I think that it's unfortunate that we are having to play our starters more in the preseason because of the new system. If we were not learning a new system we could showcase some of these players more and hopefully get more for them instead of just cutting them. I do think that JL3, Novak, Synder, Harris, Butler and even Reed will find a roster spot somewhere. I'm not so sure about Landry.
Yeah you didn't include Reed, after that Sura, and Lucas. Then it gets tricky. One note about Justin Reed he has looked good in the open practice, and the one exhibition game he was in, also players have raved about him. He is quietly having the best camp after Mike Harris of all the people that are fighting for spots. Just no room for him. To the point you make a trade for somebody if you want them, so they can't make a decision on their own. Like free agents normally don't like to go to Utah.
One answer to the question: Because they want to get rid of their excess baggage or bad contracts as well. If another team has a player or group of players they don't want or need anymore, they'd be better off seeing if another is willing to take him in a trade.
That's a tradeoff I'm willing to make. More work now (we hope) means less work during the regular season as we blow teams out and/or play less minutes because everyone in the rotation knows the system.
Me too. Tallent is a good problem. All our biggest arguments are over which one of our tallented end of bench players we are going to cut/keep. Go around and look at the end of bench players on other teams and our "problems" will make you smile.
An example might be Miami. J-Will is in the final year of an 8+mm$ deal. Let's just say the Rox offered them Rafe, Snyder, and Novak for J-Will (and a draft pick?) then Rox buy-out Williams saving Rafer's last two years and opening this roster a bit. Meanwhile, J-Will is 'free' to sign with anyone and is likely to gain another contract somewhere.
