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What would you propose as the best best college football system?

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by wizkid83, Oct 15, 2007.

  1. danny317

    danny317 Member

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    super 100

    100 of the top college teams divided into 5 regions (west, central, south east, north east, and midwest). 20 teams in each region.

    if the school sucks, they get booted out of the super 100 and replaced with a better performing team (like the english permier league)

    top 5 finishers from each region (25) + 7 wild card make a field of 32 for playoffs

    :eek:

    the football season would be long but think how much fun it would be
     
  2. A_3PO

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    Wrong. Non-conferences games don't affect the chase for a conference championship, which would remain the "be all, end all" as the only way a BCS school could make sure it gets in the tourney. UT knows 5-6 years in advance that LSU will be a tougher game than Arkansas St. Ohio State knows 20 years in advance that Kent State, Akron and Youngstown will be cream puffs. Teams have a lot of control over how tough their schedule is and the morbid fear of playing any competitive games because one loss could kill them hurts college football.

    The notion of using your idea to spread high school talent around is a pipe dream, IMO. At best a few prospects would be affected but there would be no effect on college football as a whole. Football athletic budgets and training facilities vary so much from the BCS conferences vs. the smaller conferences it might surprise you. That is why the wealth will never ever be spread equally.
     
  3. Lil Pun

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    I would do a 16 team playoff schedule where all of the 11 current conference champions get in the playoffs and there would be 5 at-large bids. This makes sure that every conference has an equal shot at winning a national title while bringing in good teams that did not win their conference championship.
     
  4. professorjay

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    Let me play devil's advocate. I'm going to go out on a limb and bet by the end of the season 4-5 teams will emerge. The problem is we're making BCS predictions from week 1, and that picture changes dramatically every week. We went from a USC-LSU championship (bet your life on it) to an 'up for grabs for the top 10 teams'. We need a larger sample size. By the end of the season we'll either be saying 'wow, USF is the real deal' or 'wow, USF made a great Cinderella story but couldn't do it consistently up until the end.'

    I'll go w/ my proposition I made last year when people were angry that Florida was going to play in the championship last year: top 4 team playoff. Let's face it - most years we're debating on who the 2nd best team is to play in the championship game. Top 4 teams, no debate. You can debate who the 4th teams is, but in that case you should've handled your business during the season.

    I'd love to see a 16 team playoff, but I'm guessing it will have little chance because of the extended amount of time. Second, the importance of weekly games will be greatly reduced. There's a reason why a regular season SEC game has more excitement than the NBA finals. On the other hand, I would hope w/ a 16 team playoff, teams would be willing to schedule more difficult games.

    All that said, I like a lot of the ideas here. And I love that this season has been so unpredictable, despite the fact that Florida is on the losing end of it. I think people are jumping on the number 16 because it feels like any of the top 16 teams have a good chance at beating any other top 16 team. But I don't think it will feel like a free for all at the end of the season, like it stands right now.
     
  5. percicles

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    I'm so against a 16 team playoff. It's just too many teams playing too many games. This isn't baskletball. This is a high contact sport resulting in serious injuries. But more importantly, I think there should be an incentive. A bye week rewards the 4 best teams in the country. Automatice births to conference champions ensures coaches don't rest players and makes all the game count.

    And to be honest I don't approve of the Donny Most socialist playoff system. There's a reason why those schools are mid-majors. My system would allow (if we usc the current BCS) for Hawaii and Boise St. to play in the playoffs.
     
  6. francis 4 prez

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    4 team playoff. current BCS formula determines the 4 teams. 2 semifinals games played in current BCS bowls. championship game played in current national title game. bowls rotate each year.


    there's no need for more than 4 teams, and anything else dilutes everything college football has been about for over 100 years, the regular season. being the champion has always been about having a championship "season," not a championship couple of games in a tournament.

    every year teams shoot for perfection as a way of winning the title, and maybe if you get lucky, you can lose one and still come out on top. with 8 teams you'd be letting 2 loss teams compete for the title every year. to me there's just too much precedence that 2 losses doesn't get it done, to suddenly allow them to have a shot. 16 teams would be ridiculous, you'd have several 3 loss teams and possibly even 4 loss teams making it. i just don't see how anyone could want that and thinks those teams suddenly deserve title shots.

    the problem with 2 is that we can potentially leave a deserving undefeated auburn-type team out, and that needs to be remedied, and is with a 4 team playoff. but we've never had a 5th place team screwed like that (boise st. in 2003 doesn't count).

    use the BCS formula b/c it's probably about as fair as anything, be it committee or formula, is going to get. it's simple (no quality win points, or SOS stuff), and yet fairly comprehensive (200+ voters plus 6 computer systems) and easy for everyone to understand.

    that's it. use the formula, any 4 teams (bcs or non-bcs) can get in, no disruption to current bowl setup, regular season is still very important. easy.
     
  7. Puedlfor

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    16 team playoff, the eleven conference champs and five at-larges.

    The conference championships reward the teams who did well during the regular season, and the five at-larges reward the teams who might not have won their conference championship but were still very good.
     
  8. AstroRocket

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    The craziness that would surround a playoff system would trump the hell out of that. It'd be like the NCAA tounament on the cream and the clear.
     
  9. A_3PO

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    A 4 team playoff would be my 2nd choice, behind 8 teams. A 4 round, 16 team playoff or a 3 1/2 round, 12 team playoff are way out of reach unless the NCAA mandates a 1 or 2 game reduction in schedule for the entire Div 1A, which won't happen in a zillion years.

    I think when making suggestions, realism should be a considered. A extra plus 1 game with 4 teams is by far the easiest and most likely step to take. My hope is it would evolve into 8 teams. I have no problem with a two loss team making it in as an 8th seed if they win their BCS conference. No matter what happens, each an every BCS conference championship game would have huge stakes and that would be great for college football.
     
  10. Mr. Clutch

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    Top 10 make the playoffs. 10- team bracket.

    Sure, the guys who are 11-15 will be mad, but that's better than the top 5 being mad.
     
  11. DonkeyMagic

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    16 is a bit much but top 8 would seem clean, simple and really those are usually the best teams. Of course, get rid of preseason polls and dont rank until the 4th week.
     
  12. slcrocket

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    That's funny, my brother and I were having this argument earlier. Here is my ideal system:

    There are 21 teams that qualify for the postseason. They are:

    11 Conference champions, coming from the Big 12, ACC, Big 10, SEC, Big East, Pac-10, Mountain West, Mid-American, Conference USA, Western Athletic, and yes, the Sun Belt.

    Ten at large teams, based on the composite rankings of perhaps an AP/USA Today hybrid...? That would be the tough part. I wouldn't even be completely against using BCS rankings for that.

    The ten at large teams play each other, 1 vs 10, 2 vs 9, 3 vs 8, 4 vs 7, and 5 vs 6. Again, this is all based on that hybrid composite ranking. The remaining five join the conference champions, who have nicely had a bye week as a reward for winning their conferences.

    At this point, again, using the hybrid composite ranking, the rankings are now formed. Generally the weaker conferences are going to be the 15th or 16th seeds, and it goes pretty much on like that.

    For fun, here is how it would play out if things finish the way I think they will:

    Conference Champions:

    ACC: Boston College
    Big 12: Oklahoma
    Big East: South Florida
    Big Ten: Ohio State
    Conference USA: East Carolina
    Mid-American: Central Michigan
    Mountain West: BYU
    Pac-10: USC
    SEC: Kentucky
    Sun Belt: Troy
    WAC: Hawaii

    Ten at-large teams:

    LSU
    Oregon
    California
    South Carolina
    Florida
    West Virginia
    Virginia Tech
    Arizona State
    Kansas
    Missouri

    LSU beats Missouri, Oregon beats Kansas, California beats Arizona State, South Carolina beats Virginia Tech, and Florida beats West Virginia. Those five winners get put in the pool and the rankings are re-done thusly:

    1. Ohio State
    2. South Florida
    3. Boston College
    4. Oklahoma
    5. LSU
    6. South Carolina
    7. Oregon
    8. Kentucky
    9. California
    10. USC
    11. Florida
    12. Hawaii
    13. BYU
    14. East Carolina
    15. Central Michigan
    16. Troy

    It may not be perfect, but nobody can say that they were deserving and didn't get a shot.
     

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