The title of this thread is not a question asking for information, it is more of a declaration. My father has plantar fascitis, and has had it for 20-30 years (cannot remember how long). Anyway, he runs 7 miles a day (10 on the weekends) and has done about 15 marathons. Perhaps half of them were with the full blown condition. He is in his late 50's - meaning his body has deteriorated. So my question is, if it is not a big deal for him, why is it crippling the Rockets this season? On a side, but related, note: I was wondering if Jeff and HP could get together for a new project. Jeff could spearhead the SOPF.COM grassroots campaign, and HP could design some animated offensive plays/sets that are geared towards reducing plantar fascitis risk. rockHead coud put injured with PF emoticons all over the site, as well (as he seems to have one for every situation).
Because today's athletes are WUSSIES !!!!! They had PF back in the 70s and 80s, and played through the pain. Heck, I have had it several times as have many of the guys I play with at the YMCA, and you just play through it. Today's athletes are pampered and have no guts. DaDakota
an animated gif will be coming soon...(not of this image) stay tuned... rH in the meantime, let's get this book for Stevie...
While I do agree that today's athletes are a bit pampered and have some "wussie" qualities, as DaDakota so nicely put it.....I have also had plantar fascitis. IT HURTS. I had it in junior college, and running isn't the problem as much as cutting, stopping, and jumping. I could run up and down the court all I wanted in minimal pain, but put any quick stress or pressure from the aforementioned actions and it can be very painful. It didn't go away fast for me either. It took 2-3 weeks of resting that foot to get better completely. I don't think I had a severe case of it either.
That could be the key...I guess I hadn't thought about that. I know with the arthritis in my knees, jumping is much more of an issue than running, although I am not supposed to do either. Thanks.
Maybe it hurts athletes today because they are far more athletic and use their feet more. There is a price for more athleticism. Injuries that didn't hurt as badly suddenly are more painful. You can't just play on PF, it's not that simple, and it doesn't make you a "wuss". Glen Rice is as tough as they get, he's missed like 7 games the last 3 or 4 years and even HE couldn't practice on the foot all summer. You don't think Glen Rice would be in better shape today if he had actually rested the foot and let it heal properly instead of being "a man" and making the injury far worse? It's not a matter of being weak, it's a matter of pain and helping the team. Would you rather have Francis "be a man" hurt his foot worse and have him out for an extended period of time and screw up his career and this franchise? Look what happened when Grant Hill didn't "wuss out". He had to have surgery on his ankle and sat out a year. Now do you consider Grant Hill a "man" or do you consider him stupid for playing on a screwed up ankle and nearly screwing up his career? Besides there are different levels to injuries.
I don't know if any of you remember this or if you even knew to begin with but two years ago when Michael Finley first made the All Star team he played the entire year with P.F. It was determined that he had it in training camp but he decided to play through the pain for the entire year. He even played in the All Star game. It was a pretty severe case from what I remember. I remember Finley saying that there were night's he could barely walk but as soon as it was game time he just sucked it up, and played anyways. He had to ice his foot after ever game of coarse but he continued to play through the pain. It can only be helped with rest, and really just a matter of how much pain you can take. If Finley can do play through it I don't see why Francis can't.
I have to agree with Rockmillenium. Grant Hill is the perfect example of what happens when you tough out an injury when you shouldn't. Better to lose Steve for 4 to 6 weeks than a season or more. Who is to say he couldn't by favoring his feet, hurt a knee or something. How can some of you call Steve a Wuss after all the pain he plays through? I've had plantar fascitis, rest helps. Also it can lead to heel spurs, a bone growth that will not go away with just rest or stretching. Where's the Doc on this aspect? There are specific exercises you can do to stretch that tendon and prevent or keep it from getting worse. Must admit I don't do them often enough and am having a more minor reoccurrence right now. But these guys are pro athletes so that shouldn't be a problem. If this was an industry I believe there would be an investigation as to whether preventive measures are sufficiently in place.
Francis in today's chronicle about PF. "All the damage has basically been done," Francis said. "It was whether I was strong enough to take the pain. I took enough pain. Trying to play against the Kings would have not only hurt myself, but probably would have hurt the team, being out there not playing as hard as I possibly could. By staying off it, it will definitely get better." http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/sports/1148396 Well, I hope you heal fast Steve, but it does make one question his toughness, or lack of it. DaDakota
<B>Well, I hope you heal fast Steve, but it does make one question his toughness, or lack of it. </B> How so? How is having Steve at 30% all season long any better than having Steve at 100% for half the season? There's a difference between toughness and stupidity. If it's not going to heal as long as he keeps stressing it, then he'd be stupid to keep playing.
This injury won't go away unless he rests 100%. Walking can even aggrivate it. For a guy who relies on quickness, it's better to rest it.
Still didn't answer my question about why you'd devote so much of your time to a team and a sport full of p*****s.
I devote time to the Rockets because I am a fan, got hooked when I was a kid, and now am as addicted as ever. Do I think the team is soft, you bet your a$$ I do. However, they are young, and it takes a long time to mature. Perhaps we could speed up the maturation process by bringing in more veterans like Willis. As for a lot of time, that is relative, I don't watch the games live, I tape them so that I can spend time with my wife and son, then watch them after they go to bed. I own my own company so when I need a break I come in here and post my thoughts. It is nice to have a place to vent and listen to others about what they think. I guess, since I am my own man, I can do whatever I want...so piss off !!! DaDakota
Don't have the guts to tell your wife you wanna watch basketball? LOL! j/k... I'd rather have Steve resting. Rudy made a comment yesterday: "It doesn't matter who you suit up if you do the right things," coach Rudy Tomjanovich said. "It doesn't matter what your name is or what your credentials are, if you do the right things you have a chance to win. By the same token, if you have all your All-Star players and don't do the right things, you'll lose." So this is also a sort of "sit and look at what you're doing wrong" type of situation. Steve and Mobley will return healed, and much smarter than before." I feel that quote was entirely directed towards Francis and Mobley. So much for Grant Hill, here's are the consequences of not being a wussie: Hill has bone spurs in his ankle. Just yesterday he said he wasn't happy with the progress of his "healing" foot. This is one of those sad cases. He will never be the player he was, he said it yesterday. He said something like "I know I cant do the things I used to do, so i try to do other things to help the team". Unfortunately, it's over, and the Magic don't have a MAX player, but have a MAXED out salary cap. We definitely do NOT want this happening to Steve, so take 6 weeks Steve, not 4, but comeback as THE FRANCHISE, not THE SEMI-FRANCHISE.
Dallas (Doc)Rocket making a house call: Hey guys, You can't compare Grant Hill who had an ankle fracture that has developed spurs down the line, with plantar fasciitis. PF is a malady that plagues many NBA players because of the repetitive pounding on hard floors. Why some get it and others don't is anybody's guess. And every team requires daily stretching and uses special shoes, orthotics, whirlpool etc. to avoid it. In the long run, I'll take PF any time over a fracture involving the ankle joint.....it's like comparing hurt to harm. What happened to Francis is that the pop he heard, and then the burn he felt, was probably the plantar fascia tearing away from the heel bone, or partially tearing. My guess is the MRI showed exactly that. In a way, this can be good because what occurred can be tantamount to the surgical "release" that is occasionally necessary. Now he needs to rest the foot to allow healing to occur. And so, while it is really painful for a few weeks, it may ironically eliminate the problem (vs. dealing with it on a chronic basis like Rice). I have seen this occur in athletes several times. Dallas Rocket
I guess no one would like to comment on how Finley played a whole season (including making, and playing in the All Star game) with the exact same injury.
