[NBA.com] Gilbertology: Marc Ecko, I Have an Offer for You

Matchman · Sep 30, 2007

Gilbert Arenas said:

Marc Ecko, I Have an Offer for You
I normally don’t get into conversations like this, but this kind of hit a nerve in my body as an athlete. This whole Marc Ecko buying the Barry Bonds ball to put an asterisk over it:
I just think it’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard of.

Who are you as a person to take away somebody’s legacy because you don’t like him as a person? Forget that he is Barry Bonds and forget his records. He was “alleged” of doing steroids. This is America, just because you’re “alleged” of doing something doesn’t mean he actually did it and until he is proven guilty, you shouldn’t have the right to be the judge and jury.

Just because you have the money don’t go buying up people’s history to destroy it. If you’re going to get Barry Bonds’ ball, why don’t you go get Mark McGwire’s homerun balls that got put into the Hall of Fame and Sammy Sosa’s corked bat too?

He was “alleged” of doing steroids. I don’t think as a fan of sports that you have the right to taint this man’s legacy.

This man has a kid. When his kid grows up he’s going to hate you as a person because you decided to be this super, superhero to go put an asterisk sign over his dad’s legacy.

I just felt appalled by it because, what if somebody decides to ban the hyperbaric chambers tomorrow? Everybody knows that I used the hyperbaric tent last year and I scored 60 points against the Lakers during the season I was using the tent. Now, the Hall of Fame has my shoes from that game. What if somebody decides to take my shoes and put an asterisk sign on them now?

I think it’s just drawing graffiti on somebody else’s legacy. Before you go and destroy another man’s career, I’d rather buy the ball back from you and give it to somebody who really, truly wants the ball for what it is.

So, Marc Ecko, I want the ball to give it to a real fan. As a human, you should be ashamed of yourself for outbidding somebody just to do wrong to somebody’s property.

If people don’t understand what I’m talking about, this is the easiest way I can explain it. Anybody out there that has ever taken Creatine, that’s a popular substance, if they all of the sudden consider Creatine to be a steroid that means all you guys that took it are dirty so if you ever do anything in life, you’re tainted. Anything you do in life you’re going to have somebody like Marc Ecko wanting to buy whatever you do in life to put an asterisk sign by it. So if you get a promotion and he decides he wants this guy fired because he did Creatine back in 2001, that’s how you should feel.

Just because he is one of the most hated guys in the world because of “allegedly” doing steroids, I don’t think you should take away his legacy.

The day he broke the record, he wasn’t on steroids. That’s how I look at it. People say that he’s dirty, but the last time I checked anything out I saw that corked bats, spitting on balls, Vaseline on balls and stealing signals, that’s all cheating too.

If they’re doing steroids, I mean there have been plenty of players who I thought have done steroids, but I’m not going to buy their stuff up just to put an asterisk on it. I think it’s giving the wrong idea to people. The fans that voted for the asterisk, I think they’re representing sports wrong because at the time that he broke these records, he wasn’t on steroids.

If you want to buy some records that were broken by somebody who was accused of steroids and admitted to using steroids, go buy Arnold Schwarzenegger’s. Go buy back his trophies and medals and put asterisks on them. That’s a man who actually admitted to using steroids.

I just think it’s wrong. In sports, what people don’t realize is, you’re trying to do everything you can to get that extra advantage. By me using the hyperbaric chamber, I’m using it as an advantage. If they ban it tomorrow, will people be looking at me as a dirty player?

I’m not saying steroids are good or bad here. I mean, I think it’s a cowardly way to enhance your performance don’t get me wrong, but my issue is that if the guy hasn’t been proven guilty, you shouldn’t taint him.

You’re not Superman. You can’t go around trying to save the world from this ball. Give me a break. What if I buy your company and throw it in the trash because I say it's tainted? How stupid would you feel?

And for people who still aren’t feeling me; What if a kid comes and graffiti’s your house. How would you feel?

You worked your butt off to live in the place you live in and some not-so-smart people come and graffiti your house. How would you feel? That’s what I feel about that ball. You’re just tagging it up.

Let a fan, somebody who appreciates the game still, no matter what, accept that ball.

I’ll buy the ball from you Ecko for $800,000. If Barry Bonds is found guilty, I’ll give it back to you. I’m not going to let you go around like some little superhero.

I’ll put it in my hall of fame. The Gilbert Hall of Fame for Athletes no matter what you did.

I know I got off on a little tangent, but Marc, who are you to discredit Barry Bonds' legacy? He is a man first before being a seven-time MVP. Marc, what if someone tried to take away what you did in this world as a fashion pioneer? How would that make you feel as a man?

I would love to buy the ball away from you before you destroy history. I'm a collector of basketball jerseys and I would be honored to have the 756 ball in my personal hall of fame and I know there are real fans out there who both are and aren't Barry Bonds supporters who don't want to see history getting marked up.

I'm not defending steroids users by any means. I defending sports in history.
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To Marc Ecko: The day u put an * on that ball will be the day i burn all my Ecko shirts. I will boycott this brand forever

Blake · Sep 30, 2007

f*ck barry bonds. that cheating d******d deserves it

"alleged" my *ss. his feet grew two shoe sizes as did his hat size after the age of 30. that means hgh. that means cheater. that means *

durvasa · Sep 30, 2007

Bonds tainted the game itself, and anyone at this point who thinks Bonds may not have done steroids is a moron.

I think the asterisk is fair. The ball will still end up in the HOF, but people will never forget the controversy surrounding it. That controversy -- as well as the homerun -- is now a part of Bonds's legacy, whether he likes it or not.

uchlha · Sep 30, 2007

I think Arenas is forgetting the fact that it was the public that VOTED on putting the asterisk there.

rocketman1979 · Sep 30, 2007

im sure if the public put a vote one of McGuire's balls that already in the hall of fame there won't be an asterisk on it and we all know why.

QUOTE=uchlha]I think Arenas is forgetting the fact that it was the public that VOTED on putting the asterisk there.[/QUOTE]

durvasa · Sep 30, 2007

rocketman1979 said:

im sure if the public put a vote one of McGuire's balls that already in the hall of fame there won't be an asterisk on it and we all know why.
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The significance of McGuire's ball pales in comparison to Bond's. That's number 1. Plus, his ball is already in the HOF, and you don't want to set a precedent of removing/modifying objects that are already there due to the steroid scandal.

That said, if there was such a vote I think there would be an asterisk written on his ball. He isn't very popular anymore.

TMac640 · Sep 30, 2007

**** me. Marc Ecko is white? lol

How???

rocketman1979 · Sep 30, 2007

Im sure Bagwell, Gonzalez, Finley, Caminiti and Biggio aren't clean either. Those guys got veins poping out of their necks and faces only a mother can love.

By the way I still love the Stros. I respect the fact that our star players took roids to make more $$$ for their families and better our team.

Blake said:

f*ck barry bonds. that cheating d******d deserves it

"alleged" my *ss. his feet grew two shoe sizes as did his hat size after the age of 30. that means hgh. that means cheater. that means *
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TMac640 · Sep 30, 2007

rocketman1979 said:

Im sure Bagwell, Gonzalez, Finley, Caminiti and Biggio aren't clean either. Those guys got veins poping out of their necks and faces only a mother can love.

By the way I still love the Stros. I respect the fact that our star players took roids to make more $$$ for their families and better our team.
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Because biggio isn't a pretty-boy like a-rod he's on the juice? Those power numbers from bidge sure prove your point. Quit posting.

rocketman1979 · Sep 30, 2007

make me dip****.

TMac640 said:

Because biggio isn't a pretty-boy like a-rod he's on the juice? Those power numbers from bidge sure prove your point. Quit posting.
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OrangeRowdy95 · Sep 30, 2007

TMac640 said:

Because biggio isn't a pretty-boy like a-rod he's on the juice? Those power numbers from bidge sure prove your point. Quit posting.
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Actually I do have a source who said Biggio, Bagwell, Caminiti, and Gonzo did the roid. Yes, Biggio did them too. Don't know where the power was, but take it for what it's worth.

travis0070 · Sep 30, 2007

I have a strong premonition rocketman loves the sausage.

travis0070 · Sep 30, 2007

OrangeRowdy95 said:

Actually I do have a source who said Biggio, Bagwell, Caminiti, and Gonzo did the roid. Yes, Biggio did them too. Don't know where the power was, but take it for what it's worth.
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If biggio did steriods, WE ALL DID STEROIDS! to the guillotine!

rocketman1979 · Sep 30, 2007

no, but I know for a fact that your mom does.

travis0070 said:

I have a strong premonition rocketman loves the sausage.
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travis0070 · Sep 30, 2007

rocketman1979 said:

no, but I know for a fact that your mom does.
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I ****ed yo mom!

SirCharlesFan · Sep 30, 2007

I love Gilbert Arenas. I wish all pro athletes had his personality. He's a guy that is exciting and is a refreshing change of pace from more typical pro athletes.

rocketman1979 · Sep 30, 2007

Yo momma so dumb, she thinks protected sex is locking the car doors.

travis0070 said:

I ****ed yo mom!
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uchlha · Sep 30, 2007

wow this thread went downhill and offtrack fast

SLrocket · Sep 30, 2007

gilbert is tight lol.

weslinder · Sep 30, 2007

Gilbert Arenas said:

The day he broke the record, he wasn’t on steroids. That’s how I look at it. People say that he’s dirty, but the last time I checked anything out I saw that corked bats, spitting on balls, Vaseline on balls and stealing signals, that’s all cheating too.
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Gilbert, In baseball, stealing signals is considered part of the game. It's not against the rules.

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