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Blackwater

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ubiquitin, Sep 17, 2007.

  1. KingCheetah

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    Sounds like a job for Dog the Bounty Hunter and his rag tag gang of misfits.
     
  2. maud'dib

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    yes they may suffer, go under or whatever, BUT blackwater only make up a small percentage of contractors working in iraq, even if the company goes under, those employees can easily work for another one such as dynacorp or triple canopy just to name a few.
     
  3. maud'dib

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    well looks like they are operational again.
     
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    http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/09/21/blackwater/index.html

     
  5. ymc

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    Of course. We all know Iraq is still occupied by us. :rolleyes:
     
  6. Saint Louis

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    Old Blackwater, keep on rollin'
    Iraqi moon, won't you keep on shinin' on me
     
  7. tigermission1

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    Blackwater >>> Iraqi 'sovereignty'
     
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    Hmmmm....it seems as though, if water isn't clear, corporations should avoid watery names: Blackwater (as discussed); Whitewater (Bill & Hillary's scam); Red Water (movie about sharks); Yellowwater (well, we won't discuss that one); Brown Water (no one want's to dive into that one) -- you get my drift. I can't recall any scandals attached to Clearwater. But then there was Watergate. :cool:
     
  9. jo mama

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    what about kevin costner's "waterworld"?
     
  10. thumbs

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    Despite it being shown repeatedly on TV, wasn't it a box office bomb?
     
  11. ROXRAN

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    "It may be worse than Abu Ghraib."

    Private Security Puts Diplomats, Military at Odds

    A confrontation between the U.S. military and the State Department is unfolding over the involvement of Blackwater USA in the shooting deaths of Iraqi civilians in a Baghdad square Sept. 16, bringing to the surface long-simmering tensions between the military and private security companies in Iraq, according to U.S. military and government officials.

    In high-level meetings over the past several days, U.S. military officials have pressed State Department officials to assert more control over Blackwater, which operates under the department's authority, said a U.S. government official with knowledge of the discussions. "The military is very sensitive to its relationship that they've built with the Iraqis being altered or even severely degraded by actions such as this event," the official said.

    "This is a nightmare," said a senior U.S. military official. "We had guys who saw the aftermath, and it was very bad. This is going to hurt us badly. It may be worse than Abu Ghraib, and it comes at a time when we're trying to have an impact for the long term." The official was referring to the prison scandal that emerged in 2004 in which U.S. soldiers tortured and abused Iraqis.

    In last week's incident, Blackwater guards shot into a crush of cars, killing at least 11 Iraqis and wounding 12. Blackwater officials insist their guards were ambushed, but witnesses have described the shooting as unprovoked. Iraq's Interior Ministry has concluded that Blackwater was at fault.

    In interviews involving a dozen U.S. military and government officials, many expressed anger and concern over the shootings in Nisoor Square, in Baghdad's Mansour neighborhood. Some worried it could undermine the military's efforts to stabilize Iraq this year with an offensive involving thousands of reinforcements.

    "This is a big mess that I don't think anyone has their hands around yet," said another U.S. military official. "It's not necessarily a bad thing these guys are being held accountable. Iraqis hate them, the troops don't particularly care for them, and they tend to have a know-it-all attitude, which means they rarely listen to anyone -- even the folks that patrol the ground on a daily basis."

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/25/AR2007092502675.html?hpid=topnews
     
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    "Since 2004, State has paid Blackwater $833,673,316, compared with Defense Department contracts of $101,219,261."

    From the same article, that's almost $1B revenue for Blackwater so far! :eek: :eek: :eek:
     
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    We all know our tax dollars is put to good use.
     
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    "Since 2004, State has paid Blackwater $833,673,316, compared with Defense Department contracts of $101,219,261."

    From the same article, that's almost $1B revenue for Blackwater so far! :eek: :eek: :eek:
     
  16. ymc

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    Oops. Sorry for the double post...

    So this Erik Prince probably earned many millions that can let him live in luxury for multiple lives. How come we don't just let Blackwater fold? Their contractors can then join other security companies. The only people who get hurt are the shareholders. But they have been handsomely rewarded, so it isn't that bad of a deal.
     
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    But then how could they donate so much money to the Republican Party? They need that contract money to buy ads so that Republicans can get elected and give more money under contracts to people who will then donate an appropriate kickback amount to Republicans to help them get elected so they can give out contracts and get kickbacks, ad infinitum.
     
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    From TPM...

    This is a rogue administration.
     
  19. pirc1

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    Yup, good thing the election is only one year away now.
     
  20. ROXRAN

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    Worse than Abu Ghraib....based on what sans subjective folly?

    I'm not sure, but I'm willing to bet there was indeed an ambush upon the brave U.S. mercenaries,...based on the fact these guys undergo extensive training and handle weapons that are often more advanced than the troops...

    In this day and age, we need Blackwater more than ever....

    Thank God for companies such as Blackhawk, and Blackwater, among many others which do private business which bridges civilian and military needs...
     

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