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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by denniscd, Sep 21, 2007.

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  1. denniscd

    denniscd Contributing Member

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    we have 97 points a game last year which was 17th in the league i think...spurs averaged 98. what do you think we will average this year and how will our scoring break down. i say we will average 102 points a game.

    yao 24
    mac 23
    shane 8
    scola 9
    stevie 11
    mutumbo 3
    chuck 3
    bonzi 8
    luther 5
    james 8

    what do you think?
     
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    durvasa Contributing Member

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    That looks pretty good to me. The individual averages might end up being a bit higher (due to DNPs).
     
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    I think Chuck will score much higher, Battier will score slightly higher, and either Stevie or MJ will be lower. Luther's kind of a wildcard, but for the success of the team, I hope he's scoring more than 5 points/game. And I'm still sticking with my prediction that Bonzi Wells will never make the regular rotation.
     
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    the 102 ppg sounds about right, but the guesstimate of individual player's production is hard to figure out.

    no way deke averages 3 ppg in adelman's system, more like 1.5
     
  5. FFz

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    Here's my crack at it... I still have Rafer starting because he's the only PG on the team besides AB. Battier's minutes might be cut down because SF3 and MJ would have to spend some time as SG. And poor luther gets nothing.

    Yao 23
    T-mac 23
    Battier 6
    Scola 10
    Rafer 5
    Wells 10
    Chuck 2
    Steve 9
    James 10
    Luther 4
    Mutombo 2

    But honestly i don't see a 11 man rotation. Obviously Mutombo won't play every game and neither might luther. Anyway that gets me to 104. This is hard...
     
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    T-Mac will score more than Yao and more than 23. Adelman wants Yao to be the passer
     
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    yao 22
    t-mac 20
    francis 12
    james 11
    scola 9
    shane 8
    bonzi 7
    luther 6
    chuck 3
    deke 2

    think we're gonna average right on the 100ppg mark. yao is still gonna get hte ball and shoot or draw fouls. this is the gonna be t-mac's easiest 20ppg hes ever had in his life i guarantee it. i can see francis drive in alot and get some points, and james hittin alot of jumpers. scola is gonna get some post ups and score. shane is gonna hit his 1-2 threes a game with some easy buckets. bonzi gonna get some shots. luther not playin as much cuz of too much depth so hes gonna hit 1-2 threes a game. chuck and deke not really known for scorin but might get that easy bucket here and there. this is a GREAT team. i know this is crazy but i do expect rings at the end of the season.
     
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    Yao 26
    Mac 23
    Shane 10
    Scola 6
    Steve 8
    James 8
    Mutombo 1.5
    Chuck 4
    Luther 8
    Brooks 4
    Thats my opinion but it doesn't even matter if we're winning...
     
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    Yes,probably we will see offense where McGrady gets ball where he will finish the play but as I said it doesn't matter if we are winning...
    We will surely see some 40pt+ games from McGrady and Yao hopefuly without injuries...
     
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    It is interesting that when you give bonzi 8 points pg you give luther 3 and reverse for example...
    We have great offensive caliber and thats good
     
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    I'll make a stab at it.

    I'll predict 102 point scoring average, but this won't add up to 102 because of DNP's

    Yao - 26
    Mutombo - 1
    Butler - 5, with a lot of DNP's
    Scola - 10
    Hayes - 7
    Battier - 12
    McGrady - 20
    Snyder - 4
    Novak - 3, with a lot of DNP's
    Francis - 6
    James - 10
    Alston - 6
    Head - 10
    Wish: Harris - 5, with a lot of DNP's
    More likely: Bonzi - 7, with a lot of DNP's

    Edit: I forgot Brooks, but I really don't have a whole lot of hope for him this year. He'll get whatever Lucas got last year.
     
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    I don't know about all the individuals scoring averages, and since they don't accumulate to get the PPG total....my thoughts would be that I expect the team to average around 104-105 ppg this year.

    I also expect Yao and Tmac's scoring to decrease a bit as they defer to other teamates to score.

    I think Scola will be a lot more productive than Hayes (if he can adjust to the less physical style of NBA ball and stay out of foul trouble).

    It also depends on Adelman and who he plays.....I would not be surprised if a few of the guys on the team are gone or trade bait very quickly ....

    So.....105ppg and giving up 99 is my guesstimate.

    DD
     
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    Yao 22
    T-Mac 21
    SF3 13
    Shane 11
    Bonzi 12
    Scola 7
    MJ 31 ( <--thats michael)
    MJ 9 ( <--thats mike)
     
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    denniscd, a team's PPG typically is NOT the sum of the player's PPG on the team. In other words, your methodology, which spreads a pre-determined team's PPG across a number of individual players' PPG, is ill-advised.

    Take for example, the 2006-07 Rockets, of which player PPG are sorted as follows:
    25
    24.6
    13.3
    10.9
    10.1
    9.7
    7.8
    5.6
    4.9
    3.3
    3.1
    2.7
    2.3
    1.8
    1.5

    sum of all 15 player PPG: 126.6
    sum of top-12 player PPG: 121
    sum of top-10 player PPG: 115.2
    sum of top-8 player PPG: 107
    sum of top-7 player PPG: 101.4
    and finally, sum of top-6 player PPG: 93.6

    If we went by your method, to score 97 PPG as a team, the Rockets would have to play some 6.5-man rotation on average, which is obviously ridiculous.
     
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    For me the situation will look that way:

    McGrady: 26
    Yao:24
    Scola:12
    Battier:10
    Francis: 10
    James:8
    Alston: 7
    Hayes:5
     
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    you would have sold me on your guesstimate until i saw you still had rafer on the team. boo!
     
  17. Barkley

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    Well I don't want Rafer to be here either but it looks like he will stay. But the better thing is that he won't play 40 minutes per game:) Great
     
  18. denniscd

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    weslinder i understand that, but i wanted a 10 man rotation and to do it without injuries...as far as scoring 105 and giving up 99...that 6 point differential will be in the top 4 in the league ( we were 5th last year) and should lead us to 58 to 60 wins...but we will not average that many points...
     
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    Tmac 24
    Yao 22
    Scola 15
    Shane 9
    Stevie 9
    James 9
    Bonzi 8
    Luther 5
    Chuck 3

    Other players (e.g., Deke, JB, Novak...) could together get 8 +

    Because of injury, Total points should 110 + :)
     

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