They played a longer version of it on the radio this morning, he was asking about why Kerry ceded the election when there were rumors that he should have won and there were suppressed votes. I think the secret society part may have been accusing Kerry of not protesting because the society wanted Bush in or something.
You don't. He wasn't arrested for "expressing his opinion" he was arrested for causing a disturbance. He could have asked his question and waited for the answer like and adult (sounds like Kerry actually wanted to address it) before he started screaming like a 5 year old. He didn't go there to ask a question, he wanted to make a scene. I don't want to live in a society where reasonable debate is squashed by whiney little brats who throw hissy-fits when they don't get their way.
He went over the time frame for his question. When he would not leave he was pulled away. They have rules of time limits per question, and without those limits these forum's would fail. Bad Decisions: 1.) If he would have left when they asked him to, he would'nt have been restrained. 2.) If he had not fought back and tried to cause a scene when they were restraining him, he would not have been forcibly restrained. 3.) If he had not continued fighting and flailing and screaming against the personnel he wouldn't have gotten tasered. Though he probably could have been restrained without it, I believe the taser is great because it allows law enforcement (i'm calling campus cops law enforcement very loosely) to subdue the prisoner in a non lethal fashion. Physicially restraining someone is dangerous for police as well. If one lashes out they can injure or attack law enforcement. Its a simple rule, if you don't want to get tasered or beat, just comply with the police for their protection as well.
passing a certain age has nothing to do with it. police harassment is nothing new to me - i started skateboarding at 12 and got crap all the time - but over the years my view of cops has become more and more negative, based on my experiences with them, which are almost always negative. i honestly think cops are just worse now than they used to be. they certainly have lowered the standards for what it takes to be one.
he said that if they got off him he would leave. this is another instance of over-zealous cops gone wild. more sad than funny. they charged him w/ violently resisting arrest - pathetic the kid was being obnoxious, but those cops were way out of line.
Spot on. You can hear that Kerry is trying to address his question too. I don't think Kerry or the cops have any problem w/ the type of question. But clearly this kid wanted to ramble in front of a microphone for a few minutes to get some attention. He didn't want to listen to any answers, just his own barrage of questions. Watching the news the only clip they show is when he's already on the ground getting tasered. I'll say it again, the cops held him loosely trying to guide him out, and he shoves them off him TWICE and made no effort to leave. Seriously, he's lucky they didn't nail him down the first time. And like someone else said, for all we know this guy could've been off his rocker like the VT shooter. Then everyone would've been complaining why didn't they take him down after the first time he pushed them off of him.
When I was in college, I would have been all over this. Now that I'm old, when I see stories like this, I just say to myself, "Kids are dumb."
give me a break. he said he would leave if they got off? and thats a good excuse?! thats hilariously r****ded, no offense.
so new yorker, you felt the tasering was justified? there were what, 5 cops there? the tasering was way out of line and unnecessary. they already had him restrained.
double check that name there but defending the guy because "he said he would leave if they got off" is just silly. How about leaving when they were escorting? how about taking some responsibility for being a dick that is causing a scene and disrupting a forum? The guy wouldnt shut the hell up. He wouldnt cooperate. He wouldnt leave. tazer his punk ass like the b!tch he is...or would you prefer they used night stick? i thought so. He was warned numerous times and still didnt leave or cooperate. face the facts bro. He put himself in that position and no one else. Just like you put yourself in position to get hastled by the cops. You (and the guy in the video) just dont want to accept that fact and not accept any responsibility
have i defended the guy new yorker? all i said was the tasering was excessive, considering that there were 5 cops sitting on the guy. how exactly do i put myself in the position to be hassled by cops? have you been following me around?
Damn college kids and their thoughtful questions. – Who the hell is John Kerry anyway? So what if he gets the Steve Smith of political protestors? Mr. Heinz is about as relevant as homogenized cheese in the grand epoch of coagulated milk.
i see. very clever name play...no wonder you get hastled by the cops with that quick wit. wasnt not cooperating when there are 5 cops on you na bit excessive? but i guess you didnt think of it that way you put yourself in whatever situation it was, yes. still not accepting responibility?
The taser was unnecessary and stupid. I'd expect Kerry will publicly condemn the use of force, all charges will get dropped, and the kid will sue and/or start protests. That said, the video on CNN is heavily cut and doesn't show how much of a scene the kid was making, before and after getting yanked from the mic. He wasn't asking questions as much as he was trying to rant on a soapbox in question form. As soon as they pull him, he makes an even bigger show about it. He's physically wrestling with the cops, which is the dumbest thing he could do. Apparently the cops also verbally warned him he was going to get tased if he didn't cut it out (they couldn't get the cuffs on him). He WANTED to cause a scene at the mic, and WANTED to cause a scene with the cops when they got involved. Taser was still unnecessary, but he did all he could to make it happen. The video here is more complete: http://www.miamiherald.com/466/story/241219.html Evan
Somehow being pinned down by 5 police officers doesn't justify a threat of physical harm to officers to my mind. Otherwise you could just as easily justify any other types of police brutality.
so in your mind "quick wit" is justification for getting "hastled" by police? its not about the guy. its about the cops. im not defending they guy - if you read the whole story the guy in front of him was the last person they had time to take a question from and when the kid made a scene they allowed him to ask one question and proceeded to ask 3. kerry didnt seem to mind and said he was trying to answer. maybe he or his people had some secret gesture they gave to the cops to remove the guy and allow kerry to act like he wanted to answer. either way, the situation was heightened by the actions of the cops and as ive said all along, the tasering was totally unnecessary. not accepting responsibility for what, exactly? like much of what you say, this statement is made out of total ignorance. again, were you following me around when i have had encounters w/ police?
