That is why Morey will have to sweeten the pot, possibly offer Luther as well, or give the other team compensation to offset Rafer's salary. The Rockets can compensate another team a max of 3 million. Or do you have this fantasy that the Rockets will keep 5 PGs on their roster? Have patience, son.
Don't we have 5 expiring contracts coming off the books next year? All Landry has to do is play Euroball or something and come back when we have open roster spots. Either that or they can just give him two years and spice up the deal a little.
I believe they have a couple of contracts with team options (Luther, Novak, JL3) and a qualifying contract year for Synder. Since the Rockets own his draft rights, they would have to cut him (Landry) in order for him to sign in Europe.
That doesn't make sense. We retain his draft rights if he signs in Europe, just like Lior and Brad Newley. Unless we sign him to a contract now, no matter where he plays this coming season the Rockets have his NBA rights. Or am I completely off here?
that's not true. We still own Lior's draft rights. We owned VSpan's for what? two years. Badiane....the list goes on. You are confused and that is why you don't understand that we DONT HAVE TO SIGN Landry...we can still own his draft rights. The rule is: you own the draft rights for however long the player plays professional bball in any other league...or until you sign him. Obviously, when you sign the player, he falls under standard rules (trades/cuts/FA etc) of a signed player. <b>bottomline</b> if teams don't retain rights of unsigned players then that creates a loop hole for players to exploit. They wouldn't sign with teams who drafted them, if they don't like that team. Becoming a free agent by refusing to sign is not allowed in the NBA.
You forget that those players you listed were already playing professionally in Europe. The Rockets couldn't officially sign them until either their contract had expired or the contract was bought out. Players who have amateur status like Landry and have already been drafted by the NBA can only sign with another professional team if that NBA team has officially released them or the 1 year waiting period has expired. Then that player can re-enter the NBA draft or sign outside of the NBA.
like I say, you are confused. Landry is not an NBA player until he signs an NBA contract. He is free to sign with any pro league without getting clearance from the league, and the Rockets would retain his NBA rights....assuming we offer him the Required Tender contract, which the article said we did. As for the 1 yr waiting period, that only counts if he does not play pro basketball for the whole year, as I said before. If he signs with another league, and for the entire time he is playing in that other league, we retain his rights.
I just have to say that I think a lot of you guys just aren't makin any sense. People have made points without any infor to back them up at all: -Some have said that he's too small to play PF while at the same time, no one is calling for the Rox to cut him. -Others even said that he is a duplicate of Hayes which isn't true at all. Landry has a good offensive game compared to no offense. -Someone mentioned that Brooks shined in the SL and Landry was unimpressive. If Landry had as many scoring opportunities or had taken as many shots as Brooks, he probly would've averaged quite a few points too. This is a good player that the Rockets are treatin like trash. He can score (both inside and out), he can defend, he can pass, and from what I can see his only slight weakness is rebounding which he can improve on. If things don't improve I hope the Rox do cut him so he can go somewhere and get the money and PT he deserves.
You hit the nail on the head! The Rockets offered him a "tender contract." They retain his rights, no matter where he decides to play outside of the NBA. I love it when a poster can truly analyze and do some credible research to come up with the accurate answer. Partner, you know your stuff.
You could not be more wrong. The Rockets own Landry's NBA rights until they sign him and release him. He can go play in Europe for the next five years and the Rockets would still own his rights.
Since laughter is the best medicine, I am delighted to have done a positive service for you, especially since you are obviously in need of rational help to achieve even a modicum of courtesy or civility. If you disagree with my observations, then explain why you scoff, especially in light of why JVG was summarily dispatched and the high incidence of shooters like Eric Piatkowski et al losing their shot under JVG.
Landry didn't show very much in summer league against players who are more athletic and physical than what he faced in college. He just blew it. It's also possible he isn't ready to contribute in the NBA. He had enough scoring opportunities in summer league and didn't do very well. His rebounding wasn't good either. There are a lot of us who actually watched the games and were not impressed at all. Mike Harris did much better than Landry. There is no way to sugarcoat it. The Rockets don't want to guarantee Landry very much money because he might not be good enough to make the team. Simple as that. A 3rd string PF (at best) with limited upside isn't very important. If you disagree, what did he demonstrate this summer that impressed you?
The rockets could have signed Newley if they wanted to. In fact, he just signed a contract to play in Greece this summer, after being drafted. Trust me, we own Landry's draft rights forever. We can stuff him in Europe until we need him. That's what Isiah Thomas had planned for Demetris Nichols. And that's exactly what the Clippers did with Daniel Ewing.
We absolutely should not sign Landry for more than the minimum we are required to offer to retain his rights. It doesn't matter what the 33-40 drafted players got, they were in different team situations. Landry had a much less than 50% chance to make the roster, so if he signs, sign him for the min we have to. It is better if Landry signs in another league where we retain his draft rights, or trade him (without being signed) for cash and a future 2nd round pick. This is understandable he and his agent don't want to sign the min deal, but it is wise from the Rockets perspective given the numbers game with the roster. By offering this contract we have his rights, be he could always take it, we could cut him, and he could then be an URFA--this is not great for the Rockets either--much worse than trading him before he signs or stocking him in Europe. When we traded to pick him we had no idea Scola and Francis would sign as FAs, that changed the complexion of this situation. Not the Rockets fault, nor Landry's. Landry didn't help his case by not kicking butt in the summer league though. (By the Fazekas and McRoberts have showed even less, the case for another player we might have considered based on summer league play would be Glen Davis)
I know that Landry can make it in the league, but watching him in the summer league convinced me that he does need a little time in the Dleague or Europe to acclimate himself to the higher level game. He's a good player, but how much do you give to a guy who really needs more time to develop before he can contribute with this particular group of players. If Chuck wasn't resigned, then I think Landry would have been a given. Since he was there just isn't room for him.
dude, no research necessary. This is pretty standard knowledge. It actually was surprised me and others had to 'splain it in fine detail to you before you grasped it, but now you seem to understand that WE DONT HAVE TO SIGN Landry. We will retain his NBA rights for however long he plays pro basketball in other leagues.
