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Landry, Rockets at odds

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rocketman2000, Sep 13, 2007.

  1. emjohn

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    Dear 2nd Rd pick. Zip it, sign for what you're offered, and earn your spot.

    Evan
     
  2. Rockets34Legend

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    Very well put, Evan. That guy should just accept whatever he gets and move on. If not, the Rockets will move on w/o him.
     
  3. thumbs

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    Read my sig. I am not that impressed with Morey's skills so far. If I subtract dumb luck, he goes into the negative side of the equation. However, the issue is Landry, and I still think he was a mistake.

    Hayes receives -- and deserves -- a lot of love from the fans for his performance last year. But that was last year and a different coach. However, he at best a 12th man (IMO) in Adleman's system. Landry is almost a duplicate of Hayes, so I would rather have Hayes -- but I would rather have had a number of other PF choices -- including Melvin Ely who just signed with the Hornets.

    I am dying to see how it all shakes out under Adleman.
     
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  4. JuanValdez

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    Well, by speaking out, he lets every other GM know that the Rockets are treating Landry as one of the expendables in their roster crunch. Morey won't be able to pretend with them that he plans to have Landry in the team's long-term plans. Morey will be forced to accept less in a trade, so more team's will be able to tender acceptable offers that are affordable to them (in talent).

    Landry's rights will soon be traded for a future second-rounder.
     
  5. heypartner

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    Harris is better than Landry right now. That is the answer to the agent's confusion.

    Landry needs to take the deal or do what Harris did and go to another league to work on his game and come back another day to try to make the NBA.
     
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    We passes on those people, because we already had talks with Dennis Lindsay of the Spurs to pass on Tiaggo Splitter and then subsequently trade for Luis Scola.

    We picked Brooks because of the development of the Scola deal; they must have felt that there was no need to draft a PF after the high possibility of getting Scola. And like you said, Adelman liked the speed of Aaron Brooks.
     
  7. Hayesfan

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    That sounds logical. I don't know where he could go at this point and earn PT this season. Maybe in one of the youth movements he could get a chance at the court... maybe Milwaukee (but they have a pretty full PF spot) or Charlotte (Why is it I never know who they have on their roster) or maybe up in the Northwest (Seattle? Portland? Their rosters seems fairly well set too)

    I really like the kid and want him playing somewhere, I think that maybe "the minors" for this first year wouldn't be a bad thing. But I would like him to remain with Houston cause at some point I wouldn't mind seeing him play alongside Yao - like Chuck he has been told he was "undersized" his whole basketball career, so i would like to see him succeed as well.
     
  8. heypartner

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    no. The only way the Rockets lose his rights (aside from cutting him) is if he takes a year off from basketball. He would have to play NO basketball for ANY pro league. Then actually, I think he re-enters the draft. I think he has to do two years to become a free agent.

    think about it: if you boycott your team and play in another league, then 1st rounders would do that to become a free agent.

    that is not allowed.

    that said, most teams do the right thing and just cut the player to be fair to them.
     
  9. JuanValdez

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    I don't know if he needs to find a place that will give him PT. He needs a team that can give him one of the 15 slots and guarantee his contract. After that, playing time would be good, but pretty much anything would be better for him than Houston. Maybe the Celtics? They still need some bodies; he might even get to play occassionally.
     
  10. ThePrivate

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    Novak a wasted pick? Come on, did you really think that JVG was going to give him significant playing time? JVG wouldn't have given playing time to Millsap or Craig Smith.

    He will get plenty of playing time from Adelman.
     
  11. ThePrivate

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    Harris is better than Landry? I don't know about that. Harris has absolutely no chance of making the 15 man roster. Just sign Landry to a 1 year contract, send him to the D-League and then let him go at it as a restricted free agent.
     
  12. emjohn

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    One-dimensional liability on defense. Bullard, Nachbar, and even Langhi weren't as limited as he is. He needs to at least get rugged enough to catch a couple of boards and hold his ground on posts if he wants to get more than situational PT. That or be able to put the ball on the floor. I'm not holding my breath for either scenario.

    With Hayes and Scola, and hopefully Harris or Landry, in the rotation I see little to no place for Novak.

    Evan
     
  13. DaDakota

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    I am not enamored with Novak or Landry....both could go IMO.

    But I also don't blame Landry for looking out for his own interests.

    When the Rockets drafted him it looked like a great spot to be, now, though...not so much.

    He just needs to do whatever is best for his own career.

    DD
     
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    Landry was probably a bad pick, but at that spot, only 20% probably carve out any sort of an NBA career. So nothing to get bent about. We don't need to sign him unless we find someone to take Reed and/or other fodder we have (not likely). Hopefully he'll go oversees and we can have periodic threads on him like Malick Badiane. :D
     
  15. ThePrivate

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    Your thinking is limited. Novak should not, I repeat should not, be playing Power Forward. That was a JVG mistake to think Novak could defend at the 4. He should be playing Small Forward. Have you ever heard of Peja Stojakovic? He is not exactly multi-demensional, but he can still shoot the ball.
     
  16. Alvin Choo

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    PG- Francis, M.James, Rafer,Sura, Brooks, JL3
    SG- Head, Synder, Bonzi, Tmac
    SF- Battier, Novak, Harris
    PF- Scola, Hayes, Landry
    C- Yao, Deke, Butler

    Rox have 19 contracts here. 4 players have to make way.
    harris, JL3 and sura is as good as gone. That makes 1 more player still exceeding the current squad. It looks like Landry will be the one making way if there is no more trades. He better sign the "undervalue" contract if he do not want to get cut before the season started.
     
  17. pradaxpimp

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    no. Average joes don't make that much.
     
  18. BEXCELANT

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    Landry is a pure Moneyball pick. Undervalued Asset. I think he can make some noise and suprise some people but for his own career, he'd be better off going someplace where he can get some minutes.
     
  19. longbow111

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    Morey is in difficult situation now. The problem is Rockets already have more than enough players under contract, but it seems he had difficulties to move some of players(IMO, including Alston, Reed, JL3, Sura, even Butler and Snyder if necessary ) via a trade. So if he sign Landry to a fully guaranteed contract, he need to cut one more player before season start. And cuting/waiving players with guaranteed contracts is the last thing a GM want to do becuase it means you lose them for nothing and still got to pay their salaries and eat you capspace.

    We can only hope some of the players can be involved in a "roster spots cleaning" trade,at that time, Landry may have a slim chance to make the roster.

    The salary for a early second round pick is not a problem to Morey, The roster spots and the costs to cut/waive players are.
     
  20. BaMcMing

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    NUTS! Hayes is an ELITE rebounder. He will be the first big off of the bench. Or he'll start. Have you seen our +/- numbers from last year when he was on the floor? What Chuck does is what doens't show in the stat sheet. He affects winning.
     

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