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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Achebe, Nov 20, 2001.

  1. Achebe

    Achebe Member

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    Bad things that have happened to my team:

    1) Kelvin Cato was signed longterm.
    2) Glen Rice was acquired longterm.
    3) Hakeem was sent packing,,, longterm.
    4) The team opted to not sign Chris Webber.......
    5) The team opted to sign Mo Taylor
    a) Mo can't rebound.
    b) Mo is injured.
    c) Mo was exhibiting signs of injury BEFORE HE SIGNED LONGTERM FOR 50 ****ING MILLION DOLLARS.
    6) Moochie Norris was signed longterm....

    Can someone point out the performers of the good deeds (Les == Griffin, jury out; TMo == Steve/Rudy, jury out; ) and point out the performers for the bad deeds?

    As it stands right now, SOMEONE SUCKS DONKEY **** IN THE ******* FRONT OFFICE FOR THE ****ING ROCKETS! I know it can't be CD, he's such a nice guy, but Rudy YOU SUCK STAY OUT OF THE ****ING PLAYER DECISIONS YOU HALF WIT DRUNK ****!!!!
     
  2. CBrownFanClub

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    With the exception of LA, we have the best prospects of any team that won a championship in the past 20 years. Maybe Philly, but thats debatable. Rudy is huge part of that. Personally, this thread has ensured that I will wear an extremely unattractive Rudy T tie to work tomorrow. This franchise is in good shape, thanks Rudy, and congratulations on sobering up. your hair is werid, though, is that a red dye? Its not subtle, ditch it.

    cbfc
     
  3. DaGlide

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    Oh my ... it's not Rudy's fault that you ran out of liquor. ;)
     
  4. RocketsPimp

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    Heb, I'm with you up to the point of telling Rudy to stay out of player decisions. He should be completely involved in player decisions, however he needs to keep his nose out of contract negotiations(if he is involved at all).

    The Rockets have a reputation with players around the league for being a players team. I'm starting to wonder if this is because they are becoming known for overpaying, underachieving and over the hill players.

    Note to Les:

    I'm looking for a job and would gladly move back to the sweat-hole known as Houston to get this problem solved. I won't even ask for an outrageous salary like you are paying CD and Rudy. A measly 50-60 g's a year will suffice. Maybe even 40 depending on perks.

    :D
     
  5. DaGlide

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    CD has a big butt and a smile. Does that count? :p
     
  6. The Cat

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    2) Glen Rice was acquired longterm.

    Brilliant move.

    3) Hakeem was sent packing,,, longterm.

    Considering we probably wouldn't have gotten Rice or Willis if he stayed, another brilliant move.

    4) The team opted to not sign Chris Webber.......

    You mean the loser who can't win a playoff series, and whose team looks better without him? Another brilliant move.

    5) The team opted to sign Mo Taylor
    a) Mo can't rebound.
    b) Mo is injured.
    c) Mo was exhibiting signs of injury BEFORE HE SIGNED LONGTERM FOR 50 ****ING MILLION DOLLARS.


    Mo isn't payed to be a rebounder. Rockets staff said the injury at the end of the season had no connection to his season ending injury. Mo will be back from injury soon, probably before the end of this season. Another brilliant move.

    Every one of those moves except for #1 helps make my case for the Rockets front office as the best in the NBA.
     
  7. VesceySux

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    Oh, but it might just be... :D
     
  8. Achebe

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    Garcon, garcon! Check please! Check please!

    Moves have to pay off at some point, TC. Since Rice has been in a funk for ohhhhh... 14 mos, how long should we give him to bounce back? If he plays 10 good games at the end of the year was the move a positive?

    Well, I understand your pov since you're circularly begging the question that Rice is worth something. Since you've avoided the rather trivial point of prooving that, I'll chalk this up as 'TC has no point'.

    Mentioning Willis also serves no purpose, since:
    a) You'll want to mention him in your "uhn uhn, Mo Taylor dows nowit suwack" part, since he was brought in on Mo T's exception -and-
    b) Since Dream actually has an intermembral index of a hominid, not a pinniped.

    Well, we certainly don't look better without him, since we have no frontcourt presence other than Jumping Jack Kenny and Kevin "arrr arrr" Willis.

    Besides, the LAL took them out in the second round. :p

    (not to mention that neither of our core players have done anything in the playoffs).

    I'll defer to Dallas (Doc) Rocket when he clearly stated otherwise. But I do appreciate this novel new step you've undertaken. Rather than belabor the point about Mo rebounding, you've run arms wide into the fact that he cannot board. Interesting point. :eek:

    IMSO, hiring a previously injured player to a frontcourt spot, when that player doesn't rebound, is either a flippant move w/ someone else's money, or it is stockpiling talent for future trades.

    Here's to Mo's departure.
     
  9. MrSpur

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    I think the Rockets are in pretty good shape.

    I'm surprised that you didn't rehash the '98 draft.

    It was just one game. Sacto handled SA pretty well in Sacto too.
     
  10. DVauthrin

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    i know this may not help you heal your pain achebe, but the rockets lack of success vs sacramento, stems from a variety of factors

    one is their balance, they had 4 guys last yr and now 5 guys on the floor who work well together and a multi faceted players

    NUMBER TWO: Esp this yr, we need Cat and Steve to show up on a nightly basis to win, but guess what this guy in sacramento, doug christie, is a damn good defender and can actually score on the other end thus making mobes expend energy on both sides of the floor. Yes, cat should done more last night but you have to give credit where its due, and doug christie is one of the most underrated players in the league.

    3rd-Bibby makes the Kings lightyears better, im sorry UB, but the kings now have a great halfcourt game to complement their running and more important they wont be prone to near as many ill advised passes and bad shot selection as they were with JWill, allowing BoJax, the best backup pg in the league, sorry Mooch, to do his role and enhance the overall team production, while we are young and unfortunately do not bring this trust/concept on a nightly basis

    4th and finally-PEJA
    This guy is the real deal, you better start learning his name very quickly as he is the kings yin to webbers yang, hes not just a pure shooter either he has good handles, nice passing abilities, is a good rebounder and albeit done rarely, can post up some, and without cwebb around he has shown the world he is more than just a good right hand man, he is a superstar

    Overall, im a rockets fan 1st by far, but my 2nd fav team happens to be the kings, because of their brand of basketball and dont be discouraged by this loss we will be a 4-6 seed in the playoffs as i see the west as LA, SAC(The big boys), SA,MINN,DALLAS,US(The next level), portland,phoenix,lac,utah,possibly denver(barely good enough to squeak in) but the kings are an outstanding team and present many matchup problems for us, unfortunately, esp this season. But dont forget that we just spanked a very good dallas team by 37, even if it was at home thats very impressive, when you get thoughts of this team not playing well. Bad nights happen, last night was one for a variety of reasons
     
  11. The Cat

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    heb,

    It's not worth arguing anymore. I like what Glen Rice did last year, while injured, and the year before that. I think he's just had a rough start to this season, and you disagree. Fine. Nothing we can do but wait and see and talk about it later in the season. His performances in past seasons are my proof; and the fact that very few shooters just completely lose their touch overnight. If you don't like what he did in previous years, I have nothing left to say.

    And as far as Mo Taylor goes, I'm not even going to start with a rebounding debate. I've done it too many times, and I'm just sick and tired of it. I won't change your mind, and you won't change mine. It just keeps going around in circles, and its a waste of time, so I don't want to talk about it anymore. I don't think he's a terrible rebounder, but I'm sick of debating it every few days, so I will stop with that point on the BBS.

    Mr. Spur,

    Yeah, I've been trying to tell everyone that too. The Kings beat the Spurs by 20, and almost beat LA on their home floor. But you'd be shocked at the number of people who think we should beat almost all of those teams every time out, and get disappointed when we have an off night.
     
  12. GATER

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    Disregard the Spurs vs. Kings or Rocks vs. Kings. I don't think the level of frustration of a single game is the root dissatifaction for this thread.

    The Rockets started the summer with the NBA's best ever record for a Lottery team, 3 first round picks, and $15m-$16m in cap space.

    We get two rookies with alleged potential who never get PT and Glen Rice and his huge 3 year contract. I don't even want to get into how much enthusiasm I lost at Rice's signing.

    If the Spurs 7-2 record included a loss to Portland, should that make me feel better when we're 6-6?
     
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  13. Nuggets4

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    You guys could always hire LHutz as your coach, if he ever comes back.
     
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    Were we watching the same game? In between Bibby's bid to become the third partner in "Kidd and Third Little Pig Constructions," it was Christie's play that made the difference in the game and season for Sacramento. (Of course, it didn't help that Houston's interior efense is non-existent.)

    To Bibby's credit, since he can't play like Jason Williams, he shaved his head so can he look like him.


    University (Van Guard) Blue
     
  15. solid

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    The Rockets have made some dumb moves, none dumber than signing Cato for 40+million, but they have made some great moves. Sort of like life; win some, lose some. I have confidence in Rudy T., he will make the best of what he has to work with. Rice could still come around, but don't hold your breath. Cato is a mental health issue, needs meds, therapy, something. Essentially he is out of the picture. I believe I could build a team around Francis, Mobley, and Griffin. Rudy will do it, but maybe not this year.
     
  16. Toughtown

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    Rudy T is the man. The Rockets are on the up & up only a few years after winning championships and losing their top players like Drexler, Barkley and Olajuwon. That is a credit to a great front office and good coaching. Deal with it.
     
  17. kpsta

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    Another note to Les:

    I'm also looking for a job and I'm already moving back to the sweat-hole known as Houston next month. I speak Chinese and will gladly fly to China (if you pay for my plane ticket), become damned good drinking buddies with Yao Ming, convince him to drop his contracts in China, and tell him about all the restaurants down in Bellaire. I'll also make sure he doesn't get Fegan as an agent and signs for cheap... say, double his current salary in the PRC... what's that 30,000 RMB or so? And I too will only ask for a measly 50-60 g's a year and good courtside seats.:D :D :D
     
  18. heypartner

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    Before you leave to tell Yao, can you tell me your favorites restaurants in Bellaire?
     
  19. kpsta

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    I really miss Chinese food in Houston and up here in Austin, it is all kind of suspect.

    I've never been into the buffets, because the food's not too fresh most of the time. If you like seafood like I do, that's no good... For basic American-Chinese food-- fried rice, lo mein, egg rolls, etc., I'm not the best person to ask because I've never been into those kinds of food. For authentic Chinese food I can probably help...

    If you're into Dim Sum, seafood, or other banquet style food-- check out Ocean Palace out on the 11000 block of Bellaire. It has been a while since I've been there (over three years), and I don't remember much off the menu. I always went with big groups and ordered a bunch of dishes-- sampling everything... Also you might try Imperial Palace. It's a bit closer in...somewhere around the 9000 block. I remember some good veggie and seafood dishes, but that was a while ago also.

    I've never been to Hunan Plus, but some Chinese friends said that for the hot, spicy chicken and tofu dishes... you do pretty well here.

    Maybe once I move back, I'll start a Hangout thread with more recommendations... in the mean time, let's see if Les hires me...:D
     
  20. T he Jockstrap

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    Rudy T or management has made some questionable decisions as far as long term contracts but players have to be put in the position to excel at what it is they do best. To bad for us that Moochie was an excellent player in the CBA and Cato excels at sitting on the end of the bench adjusting Glen Rice's ankle supports. The GIZZARD lives.
     

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