Though I'm guessing it will have little to no impact (unless a lot of things change): http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/930
This is going to be like the BetaMax or the Tucker...better product that gets squeezed out by the bigger players. DD
Exactly, we were Iphone LONG before Apple did it, and we had more features... Link to a better I-Phone 2 years before Iphone And this mock up did not even have the flip up camera that allowed hand held video conferencing. UGH ! DD
Everyone seems to forget that the V is what made DVDs popular... that it is verstaile as it can be. Digital Versatile Disc and Versatile Multilayer Disc are destined for each other. Just look at their names! I see this as the winner. Mark my words.
Technically speaking, HD DVD is versatile too (official name being "High Definition Digital Versatile Disc"). So I guess VMD and HD DVD go well with DVD in the aspect of being versatile. In that case, it looks like Blu-ray is.... (waits for KingCheetah to finish this sentence)
HD DVD just sounds stupid though. Too many D's. Blu-Ray sounds like some cool futuristic ****. That is why I'm 100% sure blu-ray will emerge as the victor.
HD-DVD sounds the worst, but it's easy to recognize. VMD sounds all right but no one will know what the hell you are talking about when you say it. Reminds me of UMD. blu-ray sounds good and it rolls off your tongue, a year or 2 ago no one would know what it is but now most people know what blu-ray is. No way blu-ray is going to lose, they have too many studios and too much $$$ invested.
The article says that the VMD disk can hold 15 t0 20 gig on a single layer but it also states that the disk is a multi-layer format. Unfortunately, it doesn't say how many layers can be placed on each side of the disk. I'm reading another article (link) that says that the multiple layers on the VMD allow it to hold up to 100 gig !!! If I could record on it, or put it in my computer and burn to it, I'd buy one of those for $199 (assuming the disks were also cheap). yup. Too bad the company was run by Norwegian Mafia crooks. We were all rooting for you here.
actually they have 2 studios really invested sony and disney and that is also mainly sony. one of the big reasons why paramount/dreamworks went to hd was the production costs of making blu-ray and if sony doesnt subsidize the production costs the profit margins became way to small for these studios to continue producing on the blu-ray format. i am sure all the other blu-ray studios have received some sort of financial consideration to go exclusive to blu-ray...as with the HD exclusive studios. momentum shifts all the time, right now the momentum is on the HD side with the inexpensive players coming out and more major movies and exclusive movies coming out by the end of the year. at this point i dont see either side "winning" the format war it seems sony is too stubborn to lose and toshiba will continue strong as well. sucks for people like me who had to cave in and buy both formats...i would have glady paid the same amount as both of my players combined for a one format HD player. its just sometimes a hassle when going to the store saying oh this is only on HD, oh this is only on blu-ray. sucks when you have the same movie in both formats and then have to see which has better features (or my case cheaper)
I'm assuming both HD DVD and Blu-ray can theoretically store that much as well (there were even 200GB Blu-ray discs demoed in 2006 IIRC), but the tech is too expensive to really bother with it right now (assuming it would ever be practical to use...probably not). I'm not even sure if the HD DVD group has even bothered with recordable HD DVD media yet. Of course, all of them get blown out by holographic storage (100GB to 3.9TB depending on the technique used). Too bad that tech is probably still a long ways off (and probably not very useful, outside of some smaller applications). I'd probably throw Fox/MGM in there as well, although they haven't put out as many movies in the past (that seems to be changing now though). Still, as far as investing in the format, they've done quite a bit (mostly for BD+ and region coding I think...plus any costs associated with the PR to put down HD DVD whenever they can). Or at least, that's what their PR teams wants you to think. I think it turns out that disc production costs for both formats isn't that different ($.90-$1.45 per HD DVD disc, $1.00-$1.50 per Blu-ray disc, via a study by Home Media anyway). Didn't realize the gap had gotten so small. I know there used to be a pretty big gap earlier in this war. Of course, that factor didn't stop Paramount/DW from declaring support for Blu-ray after previously supporting HD DVD only. Apparently, whenever the gap started to grow smaller (and become practically a non-factor), Paramount/DW decided it was a big reason why they should support HD DVD exclusively. And FWIW, I believe Sony was even doing the encoding for Paramount when it came to their releases on Blu-ray. Of course, I suppose they can get the same sort of deal with HD DVD if it was in their contract (assuming they want it anyway). Most definitely. Although it seems like the BDA spends most of its finances on securing deals with retailers (Blockbuster, Target, etc.) and other major CE companies, areas that the HD DVD group doesn't really have that much support in (at least compared to the BDA). The momentum is on the HD side (or at least, the momentum that Blu-ray had is not as strong), although I'm not sure if I agree about HD DVD having more major movies and exclusive movies. Do you have a list or anything? I admit that I haven't kept up with release dates in a while, but it always seemed about equal to me (though you can strongly lean a certain way depending on your preferences). I think 5 of the top 10 grossing films this year are from Sony, Disney or Fox, and 3 are from Universal, Paramount, or DreamWorks. The war could be over, for the most part, regardless of what Toshiba does IMO. It just needs all the major movies studios supporting a single format (preferably exclusive, but they can be neutral...at first anyway). I'm guessing that some of the electronics companies behind Blu-ray would also continue to support it as long as they could (Matsu$hita in particular IIRC).
I'm not 100% certain about actual grosses, but looking at the blockbusters from this past summer, the Blu-ray exclusives will include Spider-Man 3, Pirates of the Caribbean 3, Fantastic Four 2, Ratatouille, Live Free or Die Hard(PG-13 version only unfortunately ), The Simpsons Movie, and Superbad. The format neutral titles are Ocean's 13, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, Hairspray, and Rush Hour 3. The HD-DVD exclusives include Transformers, Shrek the Third, Knocked Up, The Bourne Ultimatum, and I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry. Based on those lists, I'd give Blu-ray a slight edge especially when it comes to movies that appeal to families. But both formats are running neck-and-neck now that Transformers and Shrek 3 are exclusive to HD-DVD.
Yeah, that's how I saw things. I wasn't sure if all those movies would be released in 2007 though. Simpsons, Superbad, and Bourne were all released in about the last month or so IIRC (maybe a few others too), and I think 2 of them are still doing good in the weekly charts. I wasn't sure if those studios were definitely going to release them on DVD/HD DVD/Blu-ray this year (only a few more months left). What is the usual waiting period once a movie has been released in theaters? I've never really paid much attention...though I'm sure it varies from case to case. Anyway, if those movies aren't being released this year (or some are, and some aren't), I could possibly see how there could be more (major?) exclusives on the HD DVD side. BTW, in case anyone cares, I was using Box Office Mojo earlier when I checked out the top grossing films this year: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2007&p=.htm
i dont have a link its being talked about over at the avs forum but apparently the hd dvd camp has announced that there 125 hd dvd to be released by the en d of the year i believe like 70 of those have been announced so far so that means another 50 or so to still be announced. of course not all of these will be exclusive discs but that is still pretty huge number if they do hit it. also not positive again but is the harry potter set being released in blu-ray right away here in the states? i thought it was being released in HD first and then later on in blu-ray because of interactivity issues, i could be wrong on this though, i probably am wrong on it. of the exclusive movies from this year to his either formats while it looks like blu-ray has more the only ones I would buy are simpsons and superbad with the hd exclusives i am looking at transformers, bourne and knocked up. i think there are a few paramount/dreamworks exclusives coming out too (older movies) which have increased the appeal of HD. i havent seen a released date on superbad but i believe the other 4 movies above i mention i would want are all set to be released by the end of the year for sure. oh RC i think you are probably right on the costs of the producing of blu-ray/hd-dvd but i am pretty sure (but usually wrong) that sony was subsidizing the costs of producing blu-ray (maybe i did eat up all the PR stuff) to make it more affordable
I just order Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (HD-DVD) from Amazon.co.uk. Hopefully I'll have it next week!
Seems like it may just be easy to get lost in the numbers. I looked at some release dates for Blu-ray movies (via highdefdigest.com), and I counted 120+ Blu-ray releases with confirmed dates for the remainder of the year. This doesn't include any movies that have been postponed (and may release in 2007), any movies confirmed for 2007 but w/o firm release dates, or movies that haven't even been confirmed for release on Blu-ray (like Superbad or Simpsons). They haven't announced a date AFAIK, so it is possible that it could release earlier on HD DVD. Nothing is confirmed though. I'd assume that the interactivity issues have been worked out, and if not, Warner may just release the Blu-ray version w/o it (like they did with 300 and a few other movies IIRC). On a related note, if the interactivity issues are worked out, I'm guessing we might be getting closer to having Batman Begins on Blu-ray (as well as other HD DVD exclusives released by Warner). Yeah, when it comes to personal preference, the "better" list can change from person to person. Personally, if I had players for both formats and had the money to spend $25+ on movies, I'd probably only get 1-2 on each format (maybe 3 on Blu-ray). Probably better to go by how much money each movie made, their review scores, or something like that. I haven't really read anything recently that said that (at least not anything that could be trusted IMO). I've seen it mentioned a few times as rumors/speculation on blogs and forum posts, but usually presented with other information that contradicts other seemingly accurate information (such as the number of BD-ROM disc replicators in the world capable of producing 50GB discs). It might be true, and probably was true early on (just guessing, no facts), but I think the costs to produce the discs are at a point where there's not much point for Sony to subsidize the costs to produce the discs.
