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Lawmakers Describe 'Being Slimed in the Green Zone'

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  1. mc mark

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    It's pretty sad when our own administration has to spread lies about our congressmen and women.

    Disgusting --


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    The sheets of paper seemed to be everywhere the lawmakers went in the Green Zone, distributed to Iraqi officials, U.S. officials and uniformed military of no particular rank. So when Rep. James P. Moran Jr. (D-Va.) asked a soldier last weekend just what he was holding, the congressman was taken aback to find out.

    In the soldier's hand was a thumbnail biography, distributed before each of the congressmen's meetings in Baghdad, which let meeting participants such as that soldier know where each of the lawmakers stands on the war. "Moran on Iraq policy," read one section, going on to cite some the congressman's most incendiary statements, such as, "This has been the worst foreign policy fiasco in American history."

    The bio of Rep. Ellen O. Tauscher (D-Calif.) -- "TAU (rhymes with 'now')-sher," the bio helpfully relates -- was no less pointed, even if she once supported the war and has taken heat from liberal Bay Area constituents who remain wary of her position. "Our forces are caught in the middle of an escalating sectarian conflict in Iraq, with no end in sight," the bio quotes.

    "This is beyond parsing. This is being slimed in the Green Zone," Tauscher said of her bio.

    More than two dozen House members and senators have used the August recess to travel to Iraq in the hope of getting a firsthand view of the war ahead of commanding Gen. David H. Petraeus's progress report in two weeks on Capitol Hill. But it appears that the trips have been as much about Iraqi and U.S. officials sizing up Congress as the members of Congress sizing up the war.

    Brief, choreographed and carefully controlled, the codels (short for congressional delegations) often have showed only what the Pentagon and the Bush administration have wanted the lawmakers to see. At one point, as Moran, Tauscher and Rep. Jon Porter (R-Nev.) were heading to lunch in the fortified Green Zone, an American urgently tried to get their attention, apparently to voice concerns about the war effort, the participants said. Security whisked the man away before he could make his point.

    Tauscher called it "the Green Zone fog."

    "Spin City," Moran grumbled. "The Iraqis and the Americans were all singing from the same song sheet, and it was deliberately manipulated."

    But even such tight control could not always filter out the bizarre world inside the barricades. At one point, the three were trying to discuss the state of Iraqi security forces with Iraq's national security adviser, Mowaffak al-Rubaie, but the large, flat-panel television set facing the official proved to be a distraction. Rubaie was watching children's cartoons.

    When Moran asked him to turn it off, Rubaie protested with a laugh and said, "But this is my favorite television show," Moran recalled.

    Porter confirmed the incident, although he tried to paint the scene in the best light, noting that at least they had electricity.

    "I don't disagree it was an odd moment, but I did take a deep breath and say, 'Wait a minute, at least they are using the latest technology, and they are monitoring the world,' " Porter said. "But, yes, it was pretty annoying."

    It was the bio sheets that seemed to annoy the members of Congress the most. Just who assembled them is not clear. E-mails to U.S. Central Command's public affairs office in Baghdad this week went unanswered.

    "I had never seen that in the past. That's new," said Porter, who was on his fourth trip to Iraq. "Now I want to see what they're saying about me," he added, when he learned of the contents of his travel companions' rap sheets.

    For one, the quotations appeared to be selected to divide the visitors into those who are with the war effort and those who are against. For another, they were not exactly accurate. Under "latest Iraq vote," Tauscher's bio noted that she had voted in favor of legislation requiring the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq within 120 days of the bill's enactment.

    She did vote that way -- in May. On Aug. 2, Tauscher voted in favor of her own bill, which mandates that troops be granted a leave from combat at least as long as their last combat deployment before being shipped back to Iraq. That vote might have been a little too popular with the soldiers she was meeting, Tauscher said.

    Still, Porter was quick to add, for all the drawbacks, the trip was worth it.

    "No doubt you will have people speak the company talking points," Porter said. "But I spent time with people who were not officers, four of them from Nevada, two who were very blunt" about their support for the war and their anger over partisan fighting in Washington.

    "I tend to lean with the rank-and-file members of military who have nothing to gain," he added. "They want to go home as soon as possible."

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/30/AR2007083001848.html?hpid=topnews
     
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    Huh? How does he go from talking about a pair of grunts who support the war and are angry about partisanship in Washington to saying they want to go home asap? :confused:
     
  4. basso

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    Lies? how is calling them on their previous statements on the war "being slimed?" only in the community-based reality could verbatim quotes be deemed a "lie."

    fact is, the troops know these congress people don't support them, and they let them know it.
     
  5. SamFisher

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    I wonder if they know how much good work you do supporting them on this BBS.
     
  6. pgabriel

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    that's too easy sam
     
  7. NewYorker

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    still, no one should be over there to be playing politics. The goal is to win a war. Why are officials handing out fliers about our congressmen when they should be handing out fliers encouraging Iraqis to build a country.
     
  8. mc mark

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    dam NewYorker! We agree! :eek:

    I'm out of here freaks! See ya in a couple of weeks! (I'm sure I'll check in from time to time!)

    Play Nice!
     
  9. A_3PO

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    The Bush Disinformation Campaign on Iraq continues. What a slimebag of a president.
     
  10. DonkeyMagic

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    because they are slime :D


    yes, thankfully we can all be confident that disinformation only comes from one side :rolleyes:
     
  11. A_3PO

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    What is the :rolleyes: for? I never said disinformation only comes from one side. Save the rolleyes for yourself and have fun debating a straw man.

    I will say this: When it comes to Iraq information in particular, the administration controls the vast majority of it. Based on what they've said the last 4 years vs. what has actually been true, calling it a disinformation campaign is being kind. There is a reason someone found it necessary to leak the GAO report before the Bush-ites got their grubby hands on it. We should all be grateful for that no matter what political stripe you claim.
     

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