"Cuttino is, like, better than Francis I think..DUH!!DOYEEE!!!"

Cuttino's mind was locked in the dungeons of insanity? The one mistake Cuttino made was a pass off to Willis where he was momentarily open. It happens to everyone. In fact, Mr. "touched by the lord" couldn't even get a shot off in the final minute of regulation against Lindsey Hunter. He got tied up. I'd say that's just as big of a mistake as what Cuttino did...

 

fromobile...I love you man...but you are drunk.

Mobley beat arguably the BEST guard defender in the league over and over. They even gave Kobe lots of help, and it didn't matter. He beat him to tie it in regulation. He beat him to find Willis for a slam, and the desparate Kobe was left falling trying to stop him for the win.

So, what did Francis do with he go-to opportunities against Lindsey Hunter.

1. Tied-up with less that 30 seconds in regulation. Mobley has to heave one....Damn Mobley sucks.

2. Francis bricks front iron on a open 18'r

3. Francis gets stripped by Lindsey Hunter on our last possession, leaving Rudy to call Mobley's number for the win in a scramble. Damn Mobley sucks.

Until Francis shows up with calm, final second Go-To game and decision-making, he has not reached his pinnacle of the lord. Give me a break...Francis has to do better than that!

 

All right, crispee, halt the propaganda machine.
Kobe was not 'desparate' when defending cuttino. The man shot under 40% for the game. You could easily argue (since Kobe had 5 assists and better shooting) that Kobe had the better game.

 

Neither Francis nor Mobley made great decisions down the stretch. Francis did get tied up, but Mobley did not HAVE to jack up that shot. Francis did lose the ball out of bounds on our last possesion and even though Cat beat Kobi off the dribble on the next play, he did not make a good pass. I don't see why one of these two guys has to be blamed for something. I think they both played pretty good games, but neither of them played great. If both of them had played great, we would have won the game in regulation.

 

You know Tmo.

You are merely projecting yourself onto me. Go take a bench seat with Terrence...

*stay down*

 

1. Tied-up with less that 30 seconds in regulation. Mobley has to heave one....Damn Mobley sucks.

If that was the shot I am thinking of, Mobley had 13 seconds left, not 3. He did not have to heave anything. It was a jack shot.

The one mistake Cuttino made was a pass off to Willis where he was momentarily open.

See above. That's a second mistake, no?

 

It was a jack shot because the officials blew the call. It originally said 3 seconds, and should've remained at 3 seconds, but the officials inexplicably raised it to 14. It probably would've been reversed anyway, had Cuttino stopped to set up a new play, because it would not have been legal. It wasn't a mistake by Cuttino, because you can't expect him to anticipate and closely watch the officials every play for every possible bad call they might make.

 

Except I openly admit to being a propagandist. So there's no need for me to project.

Is the *stay down* thing supposed to be the command you give to a dog? Pls. explain.

 

Why are people so hell bent or comparing Francis and Mobley? Talent wise Francis is better then Mobley, but when it comes to end of games shots Mobley is the one who takes it. Yeah he made a mistake last night, SO DID EVERYBODY! Francis made a silly dribbling mistake at the end, god knows what Willis was thinking. Yet people are so bent on pointing out Mobley's 2 mistakes, talk about how stupid he is, and then say he can't touch Francis. People forget Mobley was one of our leading scorer. Where do you think the Rockets are without Mobley, the guy people are so bent on saying can't shine Francis shoes? We're no where. Where no where without Willis. We're screwed without Moochie. We win as a team, we lose as a team. Sometimes I wonder. I wonder if after a Lakers loss fans are talking about how Kobe is good and Shaq is touched by the lord. People want to make this out like this is a one man show starring Steve Francis, and that the Rockets are winning despite Cuttino Mobley. People make it seem like at the end of games Mobley screws up, and it's Francis to the rescue. We lost to a pretty good team. Everybody made mistakes. As for Mobley not being able to touch "His Lord" Francis, here are their numbers:

Francis: 26 points 12 rebounds 5 assist
Mobley: 26 points 7 rebounds

Instead of frying Mobley and constantly downgrading him by comparing him to Francis just be thankful we have such a great backcourt. Where do you think the Rockets would be if Mobley blew out his knee tomorrow? I don't think even the "greatness" of Francis would save us. Mobley makes Francis better and vice versa. They're partners in crime, cutting up backcourts. They combined to score 52 points, and grab 19 rebounds, yet people are determined to point out Mobley's 2 mistakes and talk about how he can't touch Francis. He makes a few mistakes and people are just ripping him like he's a bench player. I really think Mobley would have to sit out a few months to a year before people appreciate him and stop blaming him for everything. I can understand mistakes, but people act like he cost us that game last night. And then to tear him torn apart by comparing him to a fellow Rocket?

 

#1 Rudy has sobered up. Thank god.
#2 This is a bizarre post. You, my brother, are apparently drunk or on peyote or whatever.
#3 On some level, I agree -- there is something about Mobley that I do not feel good about -- I think I know what you are talking about. I think he lives in an altered basketball reality, and I am not sure his altered reality is a place I am comfortable with. I mean, I love him, he is great, but he does not seem to know his good from his bad decisions... I dont know, I can not put my finger on it. Of course he is insane. So are all your favorite players, VMax, etc. But I feel a little weird about him too, I cant articulate yet. Hopefully, I will never have to. more on this later.

cbfc

 

What is sad is that Steve and Cuttino are like brothers and us Rocket fans are bickering about something that really is a moot point. They are both VERY good players, and they themselves don't care who is actually better. In fact, they would both say the other guy is better.

Right now, Steve is the better passer, rebounder, and can jump higher. Everything else may be virtually even or slightly in Cat's favor.

 

fromobile,

Francis played well last night, but I don't think he played THAT great. He too made some boneheaded mistakes, although not as pronounced as the couple that Mobley played. I think we would have gotten wiped out if Francis hadn't had played. However, we may have gotten beaten by even more if Mobley hadn't played. Who else would have kept Kobe that busy on both ends of the floor?

 

Ahhh....memories of Vernon and articulating insanity.

Here's some to jog your memory CBFC

<a href="http://bbs.clutchcity.net/php3/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4195&highlight=vernon">you gotta love Vernon</a>

and here is another I am particularly proud of for calling the Vernon insanity comparison early....y'all have to read CBFC's articulation of Vernon in this one.

<a href="http://bbs.clutchcity.net/php3/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2837&highlight=vernon">Is Mobley tradeable or not?</a>

 

How did Walt suck last night? He kept the Rockets in the game with his threes!

 

Francis was good last night, not great. If Francis had Mobleys confidence he'd be a one real bad ass focker.

Last night though I realized that Francis is way behind Mobley when it comes to not being able to accept failure. A few minutes into the game Francis had a wide open three-point shot, but he passed it up and elected instead to swing the ball to his 6-9 power foward who was standing even deeper behind the three point line than he was. That really had me shaking my head because I then knew that Francis is scared, scared to fail, afraid to fail to soon or too many times. All this to me means hes not quite ready to push us over that mountain top -- but thats ok though because his best buddy is there to take the fall if need be. And this is why I love Mobley of late. imo this is why Mobleys our leader and go to guy right now, not because he's more talented or smarter or stupider or whatever but because when hes on the court his balls are hung just a little bit lower than his good buddys. But this is ok though!

By the time winter sets in maybe Francis's balls will drop a little lower and some of you guys can then turnaround and throw bricks at his head instead.


btw, they both are awesome players and i thought they both played a hell of a game last night, especially considering how bruised up their bodies are. can't wait till Dallas saturday!

 

I agree with those who say that this is a moot point.

The obvious reason we lost last night was because of Samaki Walker. I think he had 13 points for the season going into the game, and tallied up a quick 14 more last night, most in the first 2 and a half quarters, after which time we outscored them by 14.

 

How come nobody mentions that stupid Francis technical as the reason we even had to go into overtime?

 

fromobile, are you suggesting that the Rocket's coach has a drinking problem and that it is affecting his ability to coach this team? Please clarify.