NAACP Atlanta Head: Vick Would be Treated Better if He Killed a Person

jason williams was fairly popular, was a television analyst, and even tried to make a comeback

 

There is little evidence that he killed someone. He was charged with murder, but plea bargained to get obstruction of justice. His testimony against his buddies wasn't enough to convict them either.

Edit: And don't forget that he payed a huge settlement to keep the civil case out of court.

 

Jayson Williams was cleared of aggravated manslaughter and the jury locked on reckless manslaughter.

The jurors said they accepted the defense argument that the shooting was an accident and the weapon misfired.

Again. It's not close to getting off on torturing and killing a large number of dogs.

You can just stop now if you want.

 

you're right its not close, because dogs are no where near close to humans

 

Yes, and his comeback never got to the NBA. He retired 3 years before the gun issue cropped up. No one cares about TV analysts. Certainly not in comparison to the overall #1 pick and widely regarded most athletic QB ever.

Trying to compare the coverage of a retired Jayson Williams to Michael Vick is absurd.

 

exactly, apparently killing someone gets you less coverage than killing dogs

 

Well, it certainly does if you try to distort it to ignore circumstances. I think OJ got a tad bit more coverage than Vick is. So apparently killing people get more coverage than killing dogs.

 

Throw out the Jayson Williams/Ray Lewis comparisons. Michael Vick is WAY more famous than those two. Jayson Williams being famous is a joke. Unless you go to basketball forums you don't know who he is. Ray Lewis is well known to anyone remotely interested in football. But Vick was a borderline household name BEFORE this incident. There's a reason Paris Hilton's DUI gets more attention than any criminal act by an athelete, I think people in third world countries are well aware of who she is thanks to us.

Second, I'm assuming this guy isn't representing the entire NAACP. But if he were, the NAACP needs to pick better battles, because they've got no case here.

 

Again...

Jayson Williams was cleared of aggravated manslaughter and the jury locked on reckless manslaughter.

The jurors said they accepted the defense argument that the shooting was an accident and the weapon misfired.

Again. It's not close to getting off on torturing and killing a large number of dogs.

You can just stop now if you want.



Vick didn't just kill a dog. He willingly and enthusiastically tortured and killed a lot of them. He is a sick person.


You have lost, pgabriel

Give it up.

 

what argument, my only argument is that killing someone gets you less coverage than killing dogs. YOU have to qualify the argument.


I don't give a damn what williams' intent was, he was drunk playing with a gun, shot someone and tried to cover it up. that's not sick?


a man with wife and kids

 

rae carruth,

killed his girlfriend intently because she was pregnant and didn't want to deal with it.

Is that a sick enough example.

 

OJ. Your argument no longer holds.

 

rae carruth, yes its holding

 

No. All it takes is one example to disprove it. You're saying, unequivocally, that killing humans gets less coverage than killing dogs. No qualifers. No outside considerations - that's the argument you continually repeat.

OJ proves that argument wrong. Very simple.

The consistent pattern is that the bigger celebrity you are, the more coverage you get. That's the reason that OJ and Vick get more coverage than nobodies like Carruth or Williams.

 

Trying to cover up a drunk accidental shooting is way more understandable than intentionally enjoying torturing and killing a lot of dogs.

And a barley famous person doing the accidental shooting compared to a very famous person intentionally and inhumanely TORTURING animals will not receive nearly the outrage and coverage. It is completely understandable and correct.

 

Whereas I agree 100% that killing a human being would be much worse (and I hope Michael Vick ultimately goes to a hell governed by dogs), Stephon Marbury (incredibly) said something that makes sense.

He asked what the inhumanity difference is between slaughtering dogs and slaughtering deer and other wildlife. I tend to agree -- both are utterly barbaric.

Of course I expect to be roasted for this view -- I also am appalled that we still allow boxing and wrestling -- but I don't really care. That's my view. Others are entitled to theirs.

 

Michael Vick had a dog killing factory. He was doing it intentionally, without remorse, and on an industrial scale. Williams unintentionally killed someone by accidental discharge.

If Vick had accidentally shot his favorite dog, nobody would have heard a word. If Jayson Williams set up a human death sport business ring and killed off people who weren't strong enough to cut it or when it became inconvenient to care for them, then he would be getting a whole lot more coverage than Vick is now.

Comparing the two is like comparing Adolph Hitler to Chris Benoit, and saying that Hitler is getting an unfair rap compared to Benoit because of the Jewish lobby tricks us into caring more about Jews.

 

ray lewis is a nobody, all these guys are pro athletes, williams was so popular he got a job doing tv analysis, so no that's arguable how big the celebrity is.

 

no the difference is dogs and humans, hitler killed humans

 

And Benoit killed humans....

Therefore Hitler = Benoit?