Oh really? remember that 32 game stretch where he was probaly the best player in the game without yao?. 29-6-7 are elite numbers. with McGrady it's all mental.he is far too unselfish on offense. when he knows he has to carry us, he is amazing. pure brillance. but with yao there, he seems to go into he's shell. Only players equal or better are Kobe better scorer-better Duncan the obvious reasons-better KG. can do it all-better Lebron i say bout equal. tracy is more skilled, better allround game and a more explosive scorer, but lebron is younger and is much stronger physicaly.-equal Nah. best playmaker in the game -better Dirk. best shooter over 7 foot . -just better Wade-he is very much overrated . great player, but he is'nt in kobe or tracy league..... After those guys there is,nt anyone better then him in this league.
i agree w/ most of your list but how can u say dirk is better? tmac has OWNED dirk literally every match up they have. tmac actually shut dirk down too. while dallas is completely clueless with how to guard tmac and has to resort to double teaming WAY before he got the ball in the 4th. if u say dirk is better but not wade (though i wouldn't put wade either but wade > dirk). if tmac is healthy next yr and has a consistent jumper (say 45-46%), i'd say the only players better than him in terms of impact are kobe and duncan. kobe simply b/c he has to do it all himself ala tmac back then. duncan smply is just too big a force on the defensive end and tmac has battier for that (and he can't play both ends all out). the guys u mentioned on that list have been owned by tmac more times than the other way around. the only exception are kobe, who he only owned while in orlando, and KG, who tends to guard him very well w/ his length. the two players he absolutely owns are lebron and dirk. i mean ABSOLUTELY when they play each other.
The current team is a pretty severe bashing on Yao and McGrady. If you don't want to click the link, here it is: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/dreamteams/08/14/nba.current/index.html C: Duncan, Shaq, Amare F: LeBron, KG, Dirk, Manu G: Nash, Kobe, Wade, Kidd, Arenas What the hell is Manu doing on the team over McGrady? I have no idea even thinks that, I don't even think Spurs fans would be deluded enough to think that Manu > McGrady. Yao at this point is better than Shaq and Amare. Shaq I can understand due to his previous dominance, but Yao is simply better than Amare.... period.
you can't be mad though. it's all about WINNING. u can't seriously think manu, arenas, dirk deserve it over tmac given his career resume. but yes, shaq/amare RIGHT NOW are not better than yao. it's all about one thing. they BOTH have not advanced past the first round. when they do (hopefully next yr and they will go much farther than just passing the first round), they'll be slurpring on tmac's jock (like they did after the first 2 games of the mavs and calling him the next MJ) and calling yao "coming of age." i can't wait when that happens though. i have always said tmac is the most unappreciated superstar in the L. yao is the most slighted superstar in the L (meaning some peeps don't htink he's even an all-star still, what a joke).
Manu is a winner. He is a champion wherever he goes. NBA champ, FIBA Champ, Olympic champ. Tmac probably has never won any kind of championship in his whole life.
Adelman will unleash the tiger inside of T-Mac. He will once again become the T-Mac of old before he came to the Rockets and JVG. Once again, he will contend with Kobe for NBA scoring champion.
Yao owned Amare? lol, i know we are in rox forum and all of us are rox fans, but no point saying something that is untrue. Amare plays as well as yao every single day, if not better. He is just faster, more athleticism, much much more mobile. If stats is what you want then Amare Season Team G GS MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG 06-07 PHX 82 78 32.8 0.575 0.000 0.781 2.7 6.9 9.6 1.0 0.9 1.3 2.83 3.60 20.4 Career 302 285 33.9 0.527 0.171 0.727 2.8 6.2 9.0 1.2 0.9 1.3 2.61 3.40 19.9 Yao Season Team G GS MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG 06-07 HOU 48 48 33.8 0.516 0.000 0.862 2.1 7.3 9.4 2.0 0.3 2.0 3.48 3.30 25.0 Career 349 339 31.8 0.523 0.143 0.822 2.4 6.5 8.9 1.4 0.4 1.8 2.54 3.30 18.5
I understand T-Mac's not being on the first team for the all-current, but no one in their right mind would choose Jason Kidd or Manu Ginobilli over T-Mac. This whole series of articles is pretty Spurs-centric. When people talk about scary point guards of the future they think Deron Williams and Chris Paul. Parker has had 6 years to improve...If he were ever going to become an All-NBA caliber point guard, he would be more on his way by now.
Funny how the 2006-2007 stats show that Yao significantly outperformed Amare playing about the same number of minutes and at a slower pace than Amare. Amare even has Steve Nash giving him easy uncontested dunks and setting him up for other opportunities, while Yao gets no such help. Amare has little post game, and relies on his athleticism (which is not as good as it was before the knee surgery) and opportunities (open jumpers and uncontested dunks) created for him by Nash. Even with these natural advantages, he still doesn't perform as well as Yao. He's also a poor defender: he "held" his defensive assignments to a 17.3 PER, while Yao held them to a 11.9 PER, stats courtesy of 82games. For more evidence from 82games, check this out: http://www.82games.com/nichols2.htm According to this metric, Yao is the 4TH BEST defender in the NBA. Now these numbers are jacked up by the fact that the Rockets played excellent team defense, but still Amare isn't even close to that. Here's a demonstration of Amare playing "defense": <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Va7B_Oz7xTY"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Va7B_Oz7xTY" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object> I repeat what I said: Yao is a better player than Amare, period.
That series was unwatchable. The Lakers and Suns did their part to bring back the 70s, and until you watch it again, you forget how awful basketball is without defense.
and he's the best player on every team he's played. it's fine to say he's a winner, but he's lucky to be in the spurs organization. u do know the spurs won BEFORE he got there right?
Oye tweedle-dumb and Tweedle-dee(Bexcelent and Doublehh03) The original poster was not saying that he was sadened Tmac is not on THIS list he was saying that about the CURRENT list of top Nba players which Tmac is not on.
Actually, I have a problem with Shaq over Amare. Shaq has lost a lot. When Wade got hurt the Heat got swept in the first round. Shaq isd one of the best centers of all time but he isn't better then Amare anymore or Yao. I have a problem with Manu and Parker as well. Doesn't SI always underrate Yao?
Oh tottaly agree that tracy wll have a huge year next year. he'll get alot of better shots off the ball this season. JVG' stagnant ofense pretty much invited triple teams on tracy. with a bit more creativity on offense and better off the ball movement, hopefully tracy will have a much easier time on offense. BTW, i put Dirk higher just to he's regular season. however i agree under adelman tracy will be better then dirk..
under anybody, tmac > dirk. dirk simply has had a better team. josh howard does more for dallas overall than dirk does.
