Rockets: Yao, Not McGrady, Determines Fate of Team

he did both. he didn't shoot fadeaways all the time u know. he bricked a lot of jumpers in generall

 

T-Mac is nowhere near 6'9"-6'10"

T-Mac is the 6'6 1/4" he was measured at. Here is a picture of him with Kobe Bryant who measured 6'5" in 1996 and is probably a little taller than that now.



I'm not seeing 3-4 inches...

With his cousin Vince Carter who measured 6'5 1/2" without shoes in the 1998 pre-draft camp.

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T-Mac looks way taller than he is because of his lanky body and long arms but as you can see he is barely taller than Vince Carter.







Shane Battier measured 6'8 1/4" and he easily has 2 inches on T-Mac. Bonzi Wells measured 6'5". As far as him being an inch shorter than Magic that makes sense because Magic measured 6'7 1/4 at the 1992 Olympics which is why he always looked 2 inches shorter than Larry Bird.

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btw just in case you don't believe me about Magic here is a sports illustrated link to back it up

Sports Illustrated article about NBA heights

In case you don't want to read it here is what is says about Magic.

If they aren't smoked out at the pre-draft camp, padded heights get exposed at USA Basketball team trials. It was in the run-up to the 1992 Olympics that the world finally learned what the cognoscenti had long suspected -- that Charles Barkley was more like 6-4 5/8 than 6-6, and Magic Johnson closer to 6-7 than 6-9. Likewise, it was a measurement in 1988 before the Games (citius, altius -- but not unduly altius) that exposed Danny Manning, who had been a 6-11 freshman at Kansas, as a 6-9 NBA draftee-to-be.

 

Why all the hoo-ha over Mac's listed height?

Great post by HakeemTheDream, but it's pretty much selective. I've easily seen just as many pictures with Mac standing head-to-head with Shane, and not to mention countless Adidas promo posters where he's barely 2-3 inches shorter than KG, who's a legit 7-footer, maybe and then some. Not to mention Duncan as well. Pictures are deceiving my friend.

In fact, there was an article on him a couple of years back that talked about both his, KG and Duncan's true height, and Tmac measured out at something like 6'8 3/4" without shoes. Can't remember which online publication was it, but it's definitely been done before. Could be for the Olympic qualifiers.

Regardless, 6'6", 6'8", does it matter that much? Fact is, Fisher is 6'2", that's a sizeable height difference that Mac had on him. He did the right thing by trying to shoot over Fisher. The only problem was that Mac's jumper sucked all season long. And don't even go into how he was fading and all that. Anybody who's watched him knows that Tracy doesn't square up on probably 80% of his jumpers. Frankly, that's overrated. Shooting in rhythm is much more important than whether or not your shoulders are perpendicular to the rim.

Lastly, I thought the article was pretty lame. It was obviously a thinly disguised Tmac-hating piece.

 

I agree he should have dominated Fisher. I am convinced T-Mac is still 6'6 1/4" because he is about the same height as Vince Carter who is 6'5 1/2" and in that back to back picture you can see he is barely taller than Kobe who is probably 6'5 1/2" Many pictures have tricky angles but not the picture with Kobe that shows he is no more than 6'6 1/4" but because Fisher is 6'1" max T-Mac should have averaged 35 ppg that series.

 

That's something else I want to comment on. Is it just me, or has Tmac's jumper been off for a couple of years already? And I don't mean off as in, he's just not hitting his shots, but it has been WAY off. The jinxed year when everybody got injured, Tracy was getting no lift on his jumpshot. He couldn't get off the ground much, and it visibly affected his shot. But this year, his shooting mechanics just look...mechanical...and awkward even. He seems to be more of slinging/pushing the ball towards the room than shooting it, which led to his shots being more line-drive than it already has been over his career. It's a noticeable difference from the way he shoots it when he was in Orlando up till his first year in Houston.

But I digress. Let's talk heights. The puzzling thing is, there are some pictures where he's barely taller than guys like Kobe, and then there are some where he's barely shorter than guys like KG, Duncan. And then there are other pictures where he's noticeably taller than VC and Kobe. I don't know. It could be his standing posture, that he slouches and doesn't stand straight up all the time. That might explain his back problems if it's a habit he's had since childhood.

 

My bad for the double-post, but just to clarify further, my point in posting about Mac's jumper is that if it had been what it was, I think he would've destroyed Fisher in that series and quite possibly averaged close to 33-35ppg. Heck, we might even have won that series. I can't count how many times Tmac was posted up on Fisher and he just bricked jumpshot after jumpshot.

 

Dumb article, its obvious Tmac has faults but Yao wasnt exactly perfect either. It will take BOTH of these guys raising their games to the next level.

 

I do not know who wrote this article, but I have to say it sucks~~
I am a Chinese and a Rockets fan. I love both Yao and Tmac. But I think Yao could never be the leader of the team. Look at what the Rockets had done when Tmac was healthy and Yao was injured last season. On the contrary, when Yao became the only star in this team, they were hardly to win a single game. It is much easier to take Yao out of the game. If we hope the Rockets can do something in the new season, we should never put all our hope on Yao. What we should do is praying for that Tmac could be more stronger, both his back and his heart.

 

VC,and KG and Duncan all slouch too. Most tall guys do. Regarding him being close to Duncan(6'10) and KG's(6'11 1/4) height.

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Duncan who has terrible posture is leaning forward and the top T-Mac's head still barely comes up to Duncan's eyebrows.

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Duncan is slouching and bending his knees yet he is still much taller than T-Mac.



Hakeem who has admitted to being 6'10" towers over T-Mac.

T-Mac is 6'6 1/4" no more no less.

 

Point taken.

Though there are reports of Duncan being another guy who's a legit 7-footer listed under his actual height like KG is. In that case, that would probably put Tmac legitimately at his listed 6'8" height.

I'll try to dig up those articles but it's a longshot to be sure.

 

Duncan is nowhere near 7 feet. Shaq who is a legit 7'1" without shoes towers over Duncan.

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Don't bother looking up the article because I've seen similar articles. KG is very close to 7 feet without shoes(6'11 1/4") so I can see why people think he is 7 feet.

 

Bill Ingram sucks
Please don't post trash like this

 

Actually, Larry Bird looks like he's a good 4 inches taller than Magic. All these years, I thought Magic was 6'9"....his head and shoulders make him look very big and it turns out that Bird is so much taller than him. The NBA should have a strict policy on heights....it's just too confusing. 7 footers aren't really 7 footers. How many of these guys are legit 7 footers: Hakeem, Ewing, Duncan, Dwight Howard.....it seems like the heights are all fudged. It would be funny if Scola came over and he was eye level with Dwight Howard and Duncan even though Scola is supposedly 6'9".

 

None of those players are legit 7 footers.

Hakeem admitted he is 6'10"
Ewing claimed to be 6'9" but was probably joking. I'd say 6'10"-6'11"
Duncan measured 6'10" at the 1997 pre-draft camp
Dwight Howard measured 6'9" at the 2004 pre-draft camp and admits he hasn't grown and Hedo Turkoglu is taller than him
Luis Scola is 6'8 3/4"
Shaq is actually 7'1" barefoot!

 

I like how Rafer helped Yao Ming develop in his third season. Who cares if Rafer was in Toronto, those long distance phone calls really stepped up his game.

It is also funny how Mobley and Francis never understood Yao Ming was on the team when he was their leading scorer in JVG's first season. I also like how Yao Ming has improved every year for the past three with TMac and...uh...Rafer. He also improved every year before they got there.

In other words, more great (and this is just tip of the iceberg stuff) writing and a much needed addition to this bbs.

 

talking about height, you must mention about ben wallace. Who cant be more than 6"6

and about yao and tmac, as a earlier comment that yao himself says, he keep rox in the game, while tmac wins them. He be the foundation of the team, while tmac will be the front point of the team.

So i rather keep it that way.

 

EXACTLY. Was Kobe the best player on the Lakers? As you have repeatedly asserted, no, it was Shaq. You made my point for me. Just because Kobe took the blame, doesn't mean he's the best player.

Your attempts to create new criteria to make it seem that your god McGrady is better than Yao is laughable.

 

enough of the Tmac vs Yao... already... we have done that to death...

it is simple...

Tmac needs to come out and say

"as the Leader of the team...

Yao needs to take all the shots..."

 

Ben Wallace has claimed he is 6'7" although I have heard he is as short as 6'5".

 

If Yao could have grabbed any of 4 consecutive defensive rebounds that were flying towards him, we would have beaten the Jazz.