ive seen this very play twice before (in person)...once in pop warner and once in high school. the quarterback looks at the ball and says 'hey...this isnt the right ball'. he takes the ball from the center (in a legal snap and starts walking towards the sidelines, then takes off. totally legal. of course, you typically have to notify the refs what youre doing before you do it--a confused ref might blow the whistle and blow the play. still, cool trick play.
Looks legal to me. The QB would be late hit on every single play if I was one of those defenders though. You don't let people get away with BS like that.
oh, and it is a cheap play because you KNOW that if one of the defenders had actually came and creamed the QB when he was walking off the field that the entire offense and the QB would have screamed bloody murder about how he was just trying to "get the right ball" or some crap
The center stood up and handed the ball to the QB...that's not a false start? Nobody on the O-Line can move until the ball is snapped. Assuming that handing the ball to the QB counts as a "snap", the center moved before snapping the ball. Of course, this is pop warner football, so they might be playing by modified rules. I don't think that play flies in the NFL or college...
We used that same play to win a game of flag football for Sigma Chi in college. I was the QB, the only difference is as I walked to the sidelines one of our receivers slowly leaked out and started sprinting, I hit him in stride for 6.... Ah, that was SWEET !! Yep, that is exactly what we did, told the ref at half time and ran it the first play after the half. I love sucker plays. OOOPS....I just watched the play again in the video, the center stood up and handed the ball to the QB, that is a false start.....penalty on the offense..... I refereed pop warner for 7 years, that is a penatly... DD
looks like legal to me and it sounds like even the coach was selling the play saying to his QB to come here and then at the last minute saying GO!. smart play but i dont think it would work in college or the nfl. one of the better trick plays i have seen is when the st louis rams ran something where warner didnt take the snap and started to walk back to the sideline and took his chinstrap off and then the center did a direct snap to faulk who caught the defense totally off guard (they thought a timeout was called judging from warners actions) and scored a TD
If you tried this in the NFL you would get lit up. Try explaining to your fans why your quarterback was just snapped in half.
How old are these kids? That play is legal, but I think it's bush league if those kids aren't at least in high school. Who was that coach, Steve Spurrier? I was going to mention that play. It was legal because Warner didn't call TO, he just started walking towards the sideline. You're allowed to have one man in motion. It's just usually not the QB. That was a brilliant play.
looks fine to me. People are talking about a false start, but once the ball is moved the play is in action and so the center can stand and turn around to give the ball to the qb
I remember that play...Didn't they call off the TD? Looks legal to me and sure, its a trick, but its pop warner...
Back in the 60s there was a play in the UT v A&M game where one side did something tricky with one of the wideouts that resulted in a cheap TD. Remember when Dan Marino faked a clock-stopping grounding and threw a TD to one of his wideouts? I think most trick/gadget plays are kind of cool. I don't like this one in the video because 1) the kids are too young-- just play football and 2) he pretends to be addressing a game official with a question about the ball-- that's just bad sportsmanship. The coach that called this should be ashamed.
Here are the official rules for player position at the start of the play. I still think it's a false start. The big question is, does the center "standing up" count as the start of the play? http://www.nfl.com/fans/rules/positionofplayers Position of Players at Snap 1. Offensive team must have at least seven players on line. 2. Offensive players, not on line, must be at least one yard back at snap. (Exception: player who takes snap.) 3. No interior lineman may move abruptly after taking or simulating a three-point stance. 4. No player of either team may enter neutral zone before snap. 5. No player of offensive team may charge or move abruptly, after assuming set position, in such manner as to lead defense to believe snap has started. No player of the defensive team within one yard of the line of scrimmage may make an abrupt movement in an attempt to cause the offense to false start. 6. If a player changes his eligibility, the Referee must alert the defensive captain after player has reported to him. 7. All players of offensive team must be stationary at snap, except one back who may be in motion parallel to scrimmage line or backward (not forward). 8. After a shift or huddle all players on offensive team must come to an absolute stop for at least one second with no movement of hands, feet, head, or swaying of body. 9. Quarterbacks can be called for a false start penalty (five yards) if their actions are judged to be an obvious attempt to draw an opponent offside. 10. Offensive linemen are permitted to interlock legs.
