derek deitrich, brett eibner, and chad jones dietrich and eibner were our top 2 picks, and chad jones is a 1st round prospect looking for $800,000- $2m to give up football. why are we not signing these guys? i can understand jones, but our top 2 picks?
Yea they wasted a couple of months of experience for these guys. If they don't sign before school starts, Astros lose rights to all three. Dietrich is going to Georgia Tech and Jones to LSU. I don't know where Eibner is going but if he goes to JUCO, Astros keep his rights untill the next draft.
nope, no draft and follows anymore. teams have until august 15 to sign their picks, otherwise they will lose their rights. new rules this year remember?
astros.com reported there wouldnt be any problems getting him signed...and that was a day after he was drafted.
It doesn't make much sense that they haven't signed Dietrich (who was noted as easy to sign) and Eibner yet. My guess is the Astros aren't willing to go over the slot money that MLB has assigned to each pick. Obviously the players and their agents are going to want over slot money since it is just a guideline. As far as Chad Jones, I highly doubt that he will be signed. Jones is said to be looking for 1st round money, which scared some teams off because of his commitment to play football at LSU. Jones dropped because of signability issues and probably would've gone in the second round due to his raw talent. The thing about it is that the Astros knew that money was going to be a sticking point, but they took a chance and now it seems like they should have drafted someone else in the 13th round. For all the talk I heard about the Astros having extra money to sign prospects due to them not having a 1st or 2nd round pick proves that it was all BS by Drayton and Purpura. Not that I can blame Purpura, he's working with the budget that Drayton gives him.
Sure, if you conveniently ignore the guys the did sign for over slot money. Chad Jones is asking for top 5-10 pick bonus money. Insane demand. Can we wait until Aug 15 before burying the Stros? Then wait another 4 years before judging the draft....
no, since there has been no talk whatsoever about signing any of our top guys. and they havent given anyone in the top 10 rounds over slot money as far as i know, and if they have, it's only a few thousand bucks. 1st none 2nd none 3rd unsigned 4th unsigned 5th 135,000 6th 123,000 7th 123,000 8th unsigned 9th 80,000 10th 75,000 i believe we've signed a total of 4 highschoolers (bono, torrence, greenwalt, turner) so far and 8 highschoolers are left unsigned.
jones is asking for money equal to the 10th pick of the draft. he was rated as a 1st-2nd rounder, so roughly $750,000 based on talent/potential alone. add his football career and scholarship to LSU, and dont forget he's the best safety in the 2007 class. grady sizemore drafted in the 3rd round got $2m to get him from a football scholarship at washington matt tuiasosopo got $2.29m in the 3rd round to also give up football. mark trumbo had a scholarship to USC and was drafted in the 18th round, and got $1.425m...and he didn't even play football. the astros should have known he'd cost at least $750,000+football money, and at the very least he's worth the $1.425m Trumbo got.
But they signed DeLome, I've seen him at Lamar, and he's an incredible player. He'll be in the Majors first.
Who have they signed over slot money? All I'm pointing out is what the Astros said to try and spin them not having a first and second round pick. The talk was that they would have more money to sign draft picks and yet they are balking at Jones' request to be paid as a first rounder, even though they knew that was the reason why he dropped to the 13th round. Why did they pick him if they knew this was going to be an issue? Did the Astros really think that Jones would be happy to be drafted and settle for less money? They have until August 15th to sign these players, the sooner you sign them the sooner you get them to Greenville or Tri-City and see what they can do.
Well, nice to know we're working hard to get the farm system back on track! If you have to overpay a couple that slipped because they had some negotiating leverage, then do it. Either we knew this when we drafted them or their should be some people getting fired ASAP. Not to add our scouting hasn't been nearly up to par for several years. So maybe they won't pan out anyways. However, it's insanely cheaper to overpay draft picks than overpaying free agents wanting 100 million a piece to fill our needs.
Football money? I haven't heard anything, anywhere suggesting that Jones (or Torrence) was in any way interested in giving up football. Torrence is reporting to LSU as soon as practices start. He would have been a late 1st rounder at best. He wants to be paid like a top 10 guy. This is where the slot money system comes in: as it's been explained to me, you can pay guys (regardless of where they were drafted) based on the general consensus of where they *would have been* drafted if signability (money or college) wasn't an issue.
i know torrence will play both sports, and he will be at OSU. there have been a few conflicting stories as to what jones wants, and thats why the rumors of his bonus demands are so wide. $800,000-$2m. some say he's asking for a minimum of $800,000 to play both sports and up to $2m to give up football all together.
Seems like they had a pretty good excuse for delaying signing Dietrich: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Draft picks: With the Aug. 15 deadline to sign Draft picks quickly approaching, the Astros are optimistic that they'll come to terms with their top two picks, infielder Derek Dietrich and right-hander Brett Eibner, in the very near future. But it looks as though their 13th rounder, Chad Jones, is headed for LSU, where he signed to play football. "I don't think there's a whole lot of hope there," Purpura said. The holdup with their first pick, third-rounder Dietrich, was due mostly to injury. Dietrich fell up the stairs at a friend's house a few weeks ago and dislocated his left (non-throwing) shoulder. The injury required surgery. "It was a freak accident," Purpura said, likening the dislocated shoulder to Chris Burke's injury in 2006, which he had surgically repaired soon after the conclusion of that season. After the Astros learned of Dietrich's injury, they stalled negotiations until they were sure the infielder was going to recover. "Once we heard that, we weren't going to sign him until we got a clean bill of health on him," Purpura said. "We're just in that process now, with our doctor speaking to the doctor who did the surgery. That just happened [Monday]." http://houston.astros.mlb.com/news/...t_id=2133561&vkey=news_hou&fext=.jsp&c_id=hou
That's being a little generous don't you think? With their track record these guys likely wont see any regular pt till they are at least what? ......26? ......27?
yeah but wouldn't it be hard to dislocate your shoulder? have to be real clumsy... my guess would be its an excuse for doing something else stupid. maybe he was drunk and fell down the stairs or something.
