OK, thought we could see who the Nostradamus was in these parts. So here, predict the scoring load for the Rox in the upcoming season. TMac 23 PPG Yao 21 PPG Francis 12 PPG Scola 7 PPG Battier 5 PPG Bonzi 8 PPG James 8 PPG Head 4 PPG Snyder 4 PPG Alston 3 PPG Hayes 3 PPG Brooks 2 PPG Mutumbo/Butler 2 PPG Rox average 103 PPG. I think Adlemans system turns us into a 100 Plus team finally. Have Fun
Tough to keep Rox in a legitimate Scoring range. Find me where else you going to squeeze points from. LOL. T'aint so easy feller.
McGrady- 27 PPG Yao- 26 PPG James- 13 PPG Scola- 8 PPG Battier- 7 PPG Bonzi- 9 PPG Francis - 8 PPG Head- 2 PPG Hayes- 3 PPG Brooks- 2 PPG Mutumbo/Butler- 2 PPG
your problem is that you're trying to divide 103 points in one game by 13 players. there's no possible way that adelman plays that many guys. try it with a 9 man or maybe a 10 man rotation and it'll be a lot easier.
a) francis will avg more than 8 ppg and likely will be starting b) battier will avg more than 7ppg c) tmac and yao will likely not avg that much...prolly more like 24-25 for tracy...22 for yao
contrary to what everyone has posted i think it will be like this: yao- 24 ppg tmac- 20ppg francis- 13 ppg battier- 13 ppg bonzi- 10 ppg james- 10 ppg scola- 7 ppg head- 5 ppg
i'll just predict the top 5 scorers tmac - 27ppg yao - 23 ppg francis - 13ppg james - 12 ppg battier - 10ppg bonzi can avg 10-11ppg depends on how many mins he plays.
For the rotation players: Yao - 25 PPG McGrady - 24 PPG Francis - 12 PPG M. James - 10 PPG Battier - 10 PPG Bonzi - 8 PPG Scola - 7 PPG Head - 6 PPG Hayes - 4 PPG Mutombo - 2 PPG This adds to 108 PPG. This is too high, but then again not everyone will play every game, which drags the overall average down.
Exactly this is a pointless effort. By doing it this way 15 players could average 20ppg and we could still have a team scoring average of 100ppg by having 5 players play 48mins for 1/3 of the season. What you want is dividing ~103-105ppg (high pace offense) by the top 8 players. I do not think Adelman's rotation will be any longer than this as he is not known for having a long bench even with the talented teams he has coached. My prediction: TMac - 27 Yao - 24 Francis - 12 Bonzi - 12 James - 10 Scola - 10 Battier - 8 Deke/Butler - 2 = 105ppg and we give up 96ppg on the way to the title
T-Mac - 28+ (he's going to explode w' Adelman) Yao - 20 (Scoring numbers dip but assists increase) Francis - 16 Bonzi - 12 James - 10 Scola - 8 That's the starting 5 plus 6th man James scoring 94 points. Just caall me Nostra-pillagus.
we have SO MANY scoring options.. james/francis/tmac/yao/bonzi thats alotta offensive fire power there, battier a good 3 point shooter too, scola.. rookie year, unproven, but i believe his experience and MVP performances will help him out alot, but at this stage i dont have an idea how well that will translate to his first year in the NBA , i think perhaps at the start it will be safe to assume he will need at least a few months to adjust and settle into the nba, and learn a few things before becoming a major contributor. so in saying that, i think it would be okay to see a decline in PPG from tmac, even down to the 18ppg mark.. as long as he keeps playmaking for others things shuold be fine, and i hope he becomes a much more efficient scorer at that, since we have so many options we should make things easier for our stars, and yao might take a stoop in ppg also, but shuold also see an increase in assists also, and less grinding and pounding inside the the low post will definitely be a bonus for him. i dont think its correct to think of who will score how many points on any given night, factors which will be considered by coach A such as mismatches in speed/size will probably count towards who will be given chances to score more. Whereas in the past we were forced to always only go to tmac/yao to score, and if one of them is having an off night, or getting shut down, we had no choice but to force them to try and create something, leading to an extremely stagnant/inefficient offense, but now whoever has the favourable matchup should be allowed to score, bonzi, james, francis have all shown they can put up 20 points, and its good that they are in a situation now where they arent forced to put up those numbers night in night out, cuz im not sure that they can do that anymore, but to be called upon when the situations favours them to take advantage, then that is what they will do, and that is how coach A will use them i think. ie: if von wafer is on PUT SNYDER ON , but undoubtedly yao and tmac will be our majority scorers, but perhaps to a lesser extent compard to last season where they were basically our only scorers, and as the playoffs showed, searching for consistency from juwan, luther, rafer and battier from an offensive standpoint, turned out to have undesirable reults.. so in conclusion.. shuold utilize all our firepower.. deciding how many minutes go to who will determine who will have more chance to score, and that will proably be decided by the current match-ups. but the core 3 i believe will be yao/tmac/battier, cuz they basically match up offensively with just about anyone, and i say that for battier not becuz his a great offensive player, but his offense is made up of basically hitting wide open 3s which he does at a decent clip, and hitting wide open 3s u can do to just about anyone... perhaps he can utilize his inside game by backing down smaller opponents more often, i dunno, thats another story, .. anyway theres my 2c. peace
I don't think Francis can average 16 ppg sharing time with M. James. Battier and McGrady will play big minutes as usual, and Battier at PF is not a good option, so Francis and James will end up sharing PG minutes and pittance SG minutes. Yao won't go back down to 20 ppg unless he gets injured, that's such a drastic dropoff from where he is now to where he was two years ago. He has made so much progress since then and is now a superstar, and his teammates have adjusted accordingly, feeding him the ball regularly even if he is cold (which didn't happen earlier in his career). I don't think McGrady can average 28+ ppg over an entire season like he did in Orlando, and if he is doing so, it's not a good sign, because McGrady seemingly needs to take over the entire offense to do that. 25 ppg is reasonable and is very good if he can do it efficiently (~46% FG%, 36% 3pt, 75-80 FT%).
a) I don't agree on Francis, I think James will start and play almost 30 minutes per game. b) Battier wont average much more than 7ppg if Bonzi and a small lineup with Francis cut into his minutes significantly. Battier needed 36 minutes to score 10ppg last year. I think with all the talent we have, Battiers minutes will decline to 26-28 minutes per game. But maybe 8-9 ppg is more realistic. c) I think TMac and Yao will score more, because the team as a whole will score more with Adleman. Yao averaged 25 ppg last year. TMac scored 24.6 ppg on 36 minutes last year- his lowest minutes since 2000-01 . I don't see their scoring declining unless Adelman wants to cut their minutes. A misconception people have is that TMac and Yao will score less because of more talent. That won't be the case unless their minutes are reduced. An example to look at is Steve Nash- he has never had more talent to work with the past 2 years and both were career high scoring years.
dude, do u know what our record is when tmac scores 30+ or more? we all know he's a great playmaker. but he's at his best when he's attacking and looking to score. when he does that, it makes the game THAT much easier for others. it takes less pressure off of everyone else. there's a reason we beat phoenix when tmac scored 39 pts. we beat utah when tmac scored 44 pts. but more importantly, when he scores, it doesn't take away from his assists #s but actually increase it. he avg 7.7 apg for the month when yao was out while putting up 30ppg. making tmac score 18 pts a game is pretty much negating the purpose of him on the floor. the same way yao should score 20+ pts. no way should a guy like yao score 19-20 pts a game.
I agree. Just because we have more talent around them doesn't mean they should score less. They are still the 2 best options on the team by far. And with the team overall scoring more, our 2 best options will also score more.
I'm not saying its gonna happen, but with Adleman, there's a chance Bonzi will be getting a lot of time in Shane's shoes. That is, if we get the Bonzi we've been waiting for.
you're probably right about battier....you're wrong about james however, he will come off the bench, he'll get a lot of minutes but he's still a sub. tmac and yaos minutes will be reduced due to the fact they won't have to play 40 minutes a night. they will be fresh and healthy for playoffs. I imagine they'll play around 32-34 minutes a night. I also think we'll see brooks some this year. not consistently, but there will definitely be enough blowouts that he'll be able to play. I think you're right about battier because he doesn't take a lot of shots or command the ball, so yes his numbers will diminish because he defers. francis, I do believe will score about 15-16ppg. I think most people will be surprised at how effective he is despite his "injuries" (wink, nudge).
McGrady- 27 PPG Yao- 23 PPG James- 10 PPG Scola- 8 PPG Battier- 10 PPG Bonzi- 9 PPG Francis - 10 PPG Head- 6 PPG Hayes- 3 PPG Brooks- 2 PPG Mutumbo/Butler- 1 PPG
IMHO, I'm thinking something like this.. Yao - 26ppg T-mac - 25ppg Francis - 13ppg James - 10ppg Bonzi - 10ppg Battier - 9ppg Head - 7ppg Scola - 7ppg (if he gets enough minutes) Hayes 4 ppg Deke/Butler 2 ppg I think we'll lead the league in most ppg as we have a real deep bench.
