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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Vballcoach, Jul 22, 2007.

  1. kevC

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    Beat me to it.
     
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    Thanks guys... I will go explore them...
     
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    I, too, like the fact our GM uses results to project into the future instead of this mythical 'potential.' Any 'potential' factoring needs to be downplayed because a) we don't have time for potential and b) it's a crap shoot, as is, to determine potential.

    I'm a complete novice to basketball statistics but I don't like PER as much as +/- numbers for a players presence/absence on a court. I'm guessing you already know about this, but 82games.com has some nice statistical stuff. My apologies if this sounds repetitive. Cheers.
     
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    If you're talking abt getting an eight-digit cheque, these stats are what you're looking for. But if you're building up a team, dude, this list is going nowhere.
    Just take a look at these so called EFFICIENCY LEADERS and those who really can make devotions:
    No.1 KG No.166 Alonzo Mourning(2.31 blkpg)
    No.2 K24 No. 78 Tayshaun Prince
    No.3 D. Wade No. 56 Manu Ginobili
    No.4 Dirk No. 170 Jason Kapono (51.4% 3p%)
    No.5 Yao No.63 Ben Wallace
    No.6 Boozer
    No.7 LBJ
    No.8 Gasol
    No.9 Duncan
    No.10 Bosh

    see sense now?
     
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    robert horry,robert horry,robert horry :D
     
  7. kevC

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    We should get him! He's had such a lucky career. As you can see from the stats, he's only average in production but he just is always with a good team. Hitting every single clutch shot helps too.
     
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    I do have a question. I saw a stat on their earlier that looked similar to hockey's +/- system. It looked like a promising stat because some players like Battier do things that don't wind up in the stat book but just help your team win. As a coach of a different sport, I love players who instinctively know what to do with the ball, but sometimes traditional stats don't reflect that. Battier seems to be one of those guys. His +/- coming into Houston was great while Swift's was terrible. Sometimes, you can't saying anything but that good things seem to happen when certain players are on the floor.
     
  9. kevC

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    What's the question?
     
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    I think that we have enough scorers on this team already.. so I don't understand why everyone still wants Haslem over Hayes.
     
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    the point is to have on the court at all times (or as often as possible) 5 players who can score. by doing so, it creates easier shots for everyone on the court.

    JVGs teams usually have one or two guys on the court who cannot score on offense. granted that makes for great defense, but it hurts us on offense. that makes the team stagnet on offense and allows the defense to really hone in on yao and tmac.

    chuck is not a scorer. neither is haslem really, but i think we're all hoping scola can be a threat on the offensive end. haslem can hit a J though.
     
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    Is there any evidence from the last 2 seasons that McGrady and Yao struggled offensively when Hayes was on the floor, versus Juwan Howard?
     
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    But that's a bad comparison because, well, Howard isn't all that good. Opponents like to give him that mid-range jumper because he can't hit it with any kind of consistency. So just because he has that range, doesn't mean the opponent respect it. After all, would you rather guard Juwan's FT-line jumper or double Yao on the low block? It's a no brainer.

    The problem with Hayes is that unless he's cutting to the basket or grabbing offensive boards, he's a huge liability on offense. He does have high +/- numbers, but again, that's with JHo for comparison. Hayes is hardly bad, just that if you can find someone nearly as good him on the boards and defense, while still able to consistently hit the open jumper, that person would be better for us.
     

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