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The Don't Trade Head Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rockets > *, Jul 20, 2007.

  1. count_dough-ku

    count_dough-ku Contributing Member

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    Don't trade him unless he's a key throw-in to landing a solid starting 4. This team needs 3-point shooting.

    Battier is terrific beyond the arc(well at least from certain spots).

    James has historically been a good 3-point shooter, although he is coming off a down year.

    Stevie is decent, but not much of a spot up shooter.

    T-Mac makes 1 out of every 3 attempts which is mediocre at best.

    Novak will never get off the bench unless it's garbage time.

    So basically without Head we'll have one really good shooter and two average ones. We need another guy we can rely on to knock down outside jumpers. Luther's that guy. Don't trade him unless it's really necessary. His game has some serious deficiencies, but with a roster as loaded as this one, they'll be less glaring this season.
     
  2. JuLiO-R-

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    <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/VvLpHJyyccA"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/VvLpHJyyccA" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>
    Luther Head 2006-07
    just graceful..
     
  3. DaneB

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    I think we need to trade Head. We would be able to get a decent pf for any trade that involved Head and Alston. Brooks could easily step in and be every bit of the reliable 3pt shooter that Head was.
     
  4. sparky

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    I really think that Luther did not showcase his athleticism only because he played with in his role under JVG's system. That was just the 2 guard style that JVG liked. As a 2 guard, VSpan used to complain because he couldn't drive to the hole the way he liked, instead JVG wanted him to sit outside and shoot 3's. In Illinois Luther was very athletic and he has shown glimpses of that ability. He also has more potential than Rather. Keep Head, trade Rafer!
     
  5. drich

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    THIS video is exactly why we should trade him damn midget who can't play pg
     
  6. lunaticrocket

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    The only thing that would be better than Head would be a two for one trade. But that is really hard to accomplish. So I say we stick with Head.

    Seriously, I hope he stays. I think if he stays he will have his best season. Plus, is is better to wait to see how the season really plays out once it starts. Then see what are the pieces that clicked together. It would not surprise me if Head had an incredible season.
     
  7. Mehdi

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    whatever luther is going to thrive in this new system give him a year to prove it...if it doesnt work out then maybe we can trade him..i rather trade synder.
     
  8. thecity5

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    heads barely going to enter his 3rd season i think if he comes off the bench for the rest of his career (not that i want him to because i think with more experience he can become a starter)he can be a 6th man award winner.
     
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    At this point he's a 3rd string SG in the Western Conference.

    That being said, he's better than John Lucas III, Justin Reed, Bobby Sura (because he can't play anymore), and so forth. Really I'd rather trade any of those guys and Alston too before trading Head.

    He's also probably better than Snyder at this point, although I think Snyder may have a little more potential and is certainly a better defender than Head is. He's better than a guy like Novak or Butler right now, but they are 6-10 guys so that's a big difference from a 6-3 SG with no PG skills.


    I think it's debatable right now who should be the 3rd string SG Snyder or Head, one's thing for sure though, a lot of people are saying Head should be kept if Bonzi leaves to be the backup SG, but Head is too small and can't D anyone up at SG, so really Snyder would be the better backup and Head the 3rd string who you rotate in for shooting purposes ala an Eddie House or a Damon Jones. Head is basically a specialist 3 shooter, a 6-3 SG.

    So I would think keeping Head more like for being the 3rd string SG, because even if Snyder leaves or they let him go, they likely would target a backup SG that was 6-6 like Snyder and can shoot 3's like Head. 6-6 SG that isn't really such a good shooter and 6-3 SG that cannot guard anyone isn't great backups at SG, especially with T-Mac's potential to miss large portions of the year.

    So one way or another I think he's a 3rd string SG if he stays in the west and doesn't improve, unless he works on his game, it's just that under Van Gundy he played so much because he did exactly what Van Gundy wanted, while other guards didn't want to play like robots so JVG benched them, it wasn't actually based on Head being a better option like a lot of Gundy fans believe. JVG is the only coach that coaches like that and plays guards based on that.

    I do however think Head has more game than he's shown because JVG just ruined every player's offense. So basically there's plenty of guys on the roster to trade before Head, but Head is really necessary to include in a deal so the other team might actually want to trade.

    But let's not get carried away with what he is right now, right now he's the 3rd or 4th best SG on the roster, and certainly the 4th best SG on D. But he is a very good shooter and clutch. But again being 6-3 in the playoffs against a good half court defensive team he will just be closed out on.
     
  10. BackNthDay

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    As ive stated, love a shooter, hate a non dribbler, bad decision, non D playing pg or sg. If he doesn't play the point, he plays the 2, which means he gets posted up at will and on the is team he will have to play the 2.

    Isn't quite obvious that the Rockets made the moves to get rid of Rafer, Luther, Chuck, and Deke.

    Stop ignoring the posting up of head during the playoffs by Utah.

    He cant play the 1 and doesn't have enough D to play the 2.
     
  11. thumbs

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    May I add to that: Luther can't play the 1, doesn't have D to play 2, is attractive to other teams because of his 3, and 4 he can't play the 5. ;)
     
  12. chuichuitrain

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    Nicely put.

    But then again, I say don't trade Luther. We need his shooting, and he is signed for cheap. I'm pretty sure some combination of Rafer/Snyder/Novak/Sura will be enough to get a deal done for a PF of haslem's or foster's caliber.
     
  13. SoccerFan

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    I think Luther has great potential. This year might be his breakout season...so I hope we don't trade him!
     
  14. enigmacx

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    I really don't understand why guys want to trade Luther.
    From a team stand point of view, what we need to do is to get rid of duplications and scrubs.
    SF and James are the same.
    Snyder is the much poorer Bonzi. Don't talk about potential. I am sick of so-called potential, which probably will never be fulfilled.
    Novak, JL3, Reed are scrubs we don't need.
    I would like to trade three of MJ, JL3, Novak, Reed, Snyder.
    Keep skip and head.

    PG: SF3, Skip, Brooks
    SG: TMac, Head, Snyder(if not traded)
    SF: Battier, Bonzi, Harris
    PF: Scola, Chuck, Landry
    C: Yao, Butler, Muto
     
  15. WNBA

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    Just as a reminder:
    That's clutch 3 point shooting, something you cannot buy.
     
  16. rockets > *

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    Who ever said he needed to be a pg? The LAST thing he needs to be on this team is a pg. but what the video does show is not only his ability to knock down 3pt at a ridiculous clip and the occational drive to the basket, which in my opinon JVG limited. I feel Adelmen will enable head to drive to the basket more and prove that he is not just a one dimensional player.
     
  17. Vballcoach

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    The real question comes down to roster spots, salary, and the would be rotation. The only problem I have with the Francis signing is that it creates a huge logjam at guard (even if Alston and JL3 are traded). If you trade Head and Alston then you can go with a two PG alignment in some instances to get James/Francis/Brooks more minutes. I see this team going small like Phoenix and Dallas did on occasion. They already have plenty of guys for that.

    I just don't think Head is that impressive personally. Novak can drain the three in addition to the guys initially mentioned.
     
  18. Seven

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    Why would this video show we should trade him? Because he's knocking down threes and dunking on dirk and turiaf? Oh god forbid.
     
  19. Vballcoach

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    Realistically, why would they trade for James and then trade him before he even plays. Whether they should have done the Howard deal at this point is immaterial. They thought James was better than Alston, so it looks like Alston will be out.
     
  20. abundance

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    If Adelman wants to keep him, he will tell Morey to not trade Head.
     

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