WOW...they got the $8 Mill trade exemption for it, but damn. 2 firsts and Kurt Thomas. I would have liked to have him in Houston.
So, does Little Stevie have Sarver's blessing to do marion + Diaw for KG, then use the TE to take Hudson (to get Minny to do the deal)? They'd be in the same place financially as they were before jettisoning KT but with KG, a better locker room, and no Diaw contract? BTW - Brian Colangelo left, reportedly because Sarver didn't want him and he didn't want Sarver. BTW II - what does Seattle do with three ok 1s, three good 4s and three project 5s?
There seems to be confusion on the TE. Seattle had the TE from the Lewis sign&trade and cashed it in to absorb Thomas' salary. The trade exception is then gone, used up. Phoenix is NOT getting a trade exception. You only get that sending a player to a team under the cap. Also Seattle's second may not be much lower than Phoenix's first so it in essence is a "trade down" along with another #1 pick. Phoenix has Atlanta's first pick next year.
They' weren't going to win anyway no point in having someone who would've costed them 16 million. All they need now is a taker for Banks's or Pike's expiring contract before the trade deadline and they get out of paying luxury tax altogether.
Both the Spurs and Suns have been penny pinching this offseason, that's what happens when you are a small market team, just another disadvantage. At least it's not as bad as baseball
It's entriely dependant on the owner. Basketball economics is different from baseball where your market has an effect on your spending. If Mark Cuban owned the Bobcats, he'd still spend crazy money. This is just an example of an owner getting cheap and hurting the team.
Actually that trade excemptions is gone but a new one for the amount of Thomas's salary is created because Phoenix didn't take anything back.
The small market thing in basketball is just an excuse. If you can't afford and franchise don't buy it.
It's funny that they traded away Kurt Thomas because he was the player they traded for to battle with the Tim Duncans and Yao Mings and Shaquile O'Neals of the NBA. Now, they are back to where they were 2-3 years ago--a donut team. This might be just a penny pinching move by Sarver, but come playoff time, he'll regret it. I also find it hard to believe that moving Diaw wouldn't have been the better choice. His contract might not be more per year, but he's got more years on that contract and is pretty much redundant when they have Amare and Marion on the team (I know about his passing skills, but he's a PF plain and simple)
for an owner not to be into the luxury tax you can't go over 67.9 million right? even after this deal the suns are at 68 million+
Try follow this sequences of events and find the logic for making these deal 2004 Phoenix Suns Trade: 7th pick Luol Deng to Chicago for 32nd pick Jackson Vroman and future 1st round pick. Reason - The traded the pick away even before the draft started thinking their man Andre Igoudala would not be on the board when they would select. Suns later found he was available and even dropped to 9th and picked by Philadelphia 76ers. 2005 Phoenix Suns Trade: 21st pick Nate Robinson (via Chicago) and Quentin Robinson to the Knicks for Kurt Thomas and rights to 54th pick Dijon Thompson. Reason - They found out the hard that Quentin Richardson was an overpaid outside shooter with no other dimension to his game so they had to package him with a pick to rid of his large contract. Also Suns needed someone beside Amare who can play Center position. 2006 Phoenix Suns Trade: 30th pick Sergio Rodriguez to Portland for cash consideration. Reason: Classic salary shaving nothing else. 2007 Phoenix Suns Trade: 24th pick Rudy Fernandez to Portland for cash. Reason: Gillette double blade the sequel! Phoenix Suns Trade: Kurt Thomas, 2008 and 2010 first round picks to Seattle for $8 million trade exception. Reason: Luxury taxes!!! Now lets recap this after a bizillion moves the Suns are left with. Incoming: 1) Jackson Vroman 2) Dijon Thompson 3) $10 million. (Cash from both Portland trades and Seattle deal) Outgoing: 1) Andre Igoudala OR Luol Deng. (pick one whichever way) 2) Quentin Richardson 3) Nate Robinson 4) Sergio Rodriguez 5) Rudy Fernandez 6) Kurt Thomas 7) 2008 first round pick 8) 2010 first round pick Conclusion: WOW Phoenix has just set the benchmark for the single longest sequences of lob-sided deals ever made. Any other team in the NBA would have made a good bench and core with those players they traded away for nothing. No wonder Suns are thin 6 man rotation and now their backup center is gone too. I expect them to implode in the next 2 years when Nash finally decides to pull the plug on this team. 5)
The Suns forum is ripping this trade to shreds. At this point it looks like the Suns will be standing pat this summer.
This is similar to the Golden State one. But Golden State is going to use theres while the Suns seem like there going to let it expire.
I'd be ripping it too, if I were a Suns fan. 2 first round picks and the backup center who can still play, so the owner can save a few bucks?
