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Rick Adelman On How to Deploy Yao Ming & Tracy McGrady

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by pryuen, Jul 16, 2007.

  1. meh

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    You know something? Even Hakeem won't park in the low post every time down the floor because of stamina issues. He even mentions that he became great at pacing himself later in his career. Hakeem took a lot of mid-range jumpers, so it's hardly fair to say that if Yao needs to stay in the low post all the time.
     
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    cmon don't compare hakeem to yao. hakeem can stay outside b/c he's so damn quick he can beat most PFs off the dribble, let alone a center.

    u think yao can handle the ball to beat anyone off the dribble. if he has the ball outside, the ONLY thing he can do is catch and shoot. u don't want yao to dribble more than 2 times. he's not agile like hakeem.

    so if u want to compare yao and hakeem please watch more tape.

    yao can beat a guy as athletic as dwight howard off the dribble or he can post shaq up for the fallaway. he was THAT good.

    if yao can take his guy off the dribble, hell yea JVG would have done it already.

    i think when adelman says to expand his game, it's SIMPLY TO CATCH AND SHOOT ON THE PICK AND ROLL. yao will turn it over 20 times a game if he handles the ball.
     
  3. Dr of Dunk

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    In fairness to Hakeem, he was a PF playing C. He wasn't 7'6" and 300+ lbs. At 7'6" 300+ lbs, you should be abusing anyone short of Shaq down in the paint. Hakeem moved his game out because of big 270-300 lbs players.
     
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    knock jvg's use of yao all you want...but this same board was calling him an mvp candidate before he got hurt, so he couldnt have been doing too badly before.
     
  5. meh

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    I have watched plenty of LIVE footage of Hakeem for years. So I know exactly how agile he is. And I also knew that Hakeem on the low block was much better than Hakeem on the perimeter shooting jumpers.

    In fact, that's the whole point of my post. Hakeem wants to be at the low post all the time, especially considering the no-zone policy back then. But his body could not handle the constant pounding. Hence, he developed an outside game to complment his low-post one. While Yao may not have Hakeem's quickness, it's not as if the Dream was breaking down people from the FT line all the time. He was very much a shoot-or-pass kind of guy from the hight post/perimeter.

    Maybe, maybe not. Yao probably should be abusing everyone if they played fair. But time and time the refs have shown to allow incredible amount of contact in the paint without blowing the whistle. And Yao has been man-handled in the paint many times by smaller players. And that's why Adelman wants to expand his game. So Yao can find other ways to contribute when his low post game is not working efficiently.

    One point I think many people against Adelman on this thread misses is the fact that Yao's shooting is not the main problem down low. It's the ENTRY PASS. It's pretty clear that if Yao gets the ball in deep enough position it's over. But getting him the ball has been the biggest problem with JVG's offense. Leading to lots of turnovers and bogs down the offense when things aren't clicking.
     
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    masterful work by YF2k7 in this thread. ;)

    With him dragging his team to a title as a sophomore and having one of the most dominant seasons in history in 1971 with the bucks?

    PS what was your first userid on this BBS?
     
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    Actually, Fans are easy to satisfied. When yao is playing like MVP, scoring, rebounding,beating up Eddie Curry, fans are happy about what they have already got. But most of them (I guess) forgot what kind of player yao really can be at that kind of time. Yes JVG did very good job to develop Yaoming's low post game and made him a scoring machine, but in the same time, he became more and more mechanical and predictable, his creativity on the court disappeared during the past years.

    As a Chinese fan, I have followed Yao since about 1998 and I have seen yao's creativities on the court plenty of times before he entered NBA in 2002. Even in his rookie season, he's still showing his high BBIQ once in a while even though he is not phisically ready to be an good NBA player at that time. Then JVG comes and yao became what JVG want him to be. But that yao is not fully utilized and I'm sure he can do much more than what he's doing now. He's really a very very special player.

    Maybe the first round exit this year is a good thing after all. If we beat the Jazz maybe JVG will got his contract extended and we'll stuck with this bald nepoleon another 3-4 years!
     
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    JVG's use of ming caused injuries.....getting his foot kicked, leg rolled over, foot stepped on.......Adleman will mix it up as stated above w/out abandoning where he dominates in the low post.

    I go with Adelmans text on how he will use ming.
     
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    SamFisher if you do not know that Kareem had the soft label for years then you obviously don't know much about Kareem.
     
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    i wuz really disapointed tht van gundy left but i think im gonna like our new coach...

    :D
     
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    The NBA game is evolving the game is becoming faster and faster, players are getting stronger and if Yao becomes one dimension player he will be predictble, I do not think is wise to have Yao planting in the paint infact that is what every player expects. Coach Adelman is saying that he will be using Yao in his natural flow. I concur
     
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    I go with Adelman on this case. Park Yao in the low post and let him dominate until the opposing team adjusts the defense and starts anticipating the pass. Have Yao dominate in the high post at that point until they adjust. Thenhen move him back into the low post again. The opposing coach will have to call timeout every 5 minutes to change his defense on Yao.
     
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    Van Gundy kept Yao in the low post all the time even when the defense had adjusted. Van Gundy would stay with the low post offense and could not adjust. That's where those 7 turnover games showed up and never coming back from being down in the 4th quarter.
     
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    who gives a **** about yao, more important is if team wins
     
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    give me a break :rolleyes:
     
  16. uchlha

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    *hands you a snickers*
     
  17. Fuse

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    Exactly... the sky hook was not exactly known as a power move.
     
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    IM WITH ADELMAN ON THIS. YAO HAS MANY OTHER SKILLS BESIDES POSTING. WHY NOT USE THEM? VERSATILE PLAYERS ARE ALWAY THE BEST! THERE IS NO WAY YAO WANTS TO SIT IN THE POST ALL DAY LONG. YOU SEE HOW TIRED HE IS AFTER POSTING AND TRYING TO GET BACK ON D EVERY GAME. ITS NOT GOOD FOR HIM OR THE TEAM. YAO IS ONE OF THE BEST FREE THROW SHOOTERS, HE SHOULD BE HITTIN THAT ALL DAY! :cool:
     
  19. javashot

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    YOU MEAN KIT KAT
     
  20. DonkeyMagic

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    lol
    dont you mean a kit-kat?
     

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