says the new york sun. i guess i missed something or something. nice to hear that scola isn't the only one getting some attention from the team.
helluva bonus if anything can be read into it. I must admit I didnt know too much about Scola and when I first saw who was involved in the trade I thought it was basically Span for Butler, who I thought went ok.
no, they were claiming that Kamla said that Scola was overrated, but also that Butler was absolute garbage that nobody in the league would take off the Spurs' hands. here's the quote from the user "SpursRock50":
I thought one of the reason that Spurs' other plans to trade Scola fell throught was nobody wanted any part of Butler's contract.
Since 2004, the Suns have traded the following first-round draft picks to other teams with little or nothing in return: Luol Deng (2004), Nate Robinson (2005), Sergio Rodriguez (2006), Rajon Rondo (2006), and Rudy Fernandez (2007). Think you could sculpt a nice bench from that crowd? The sum total of the salaries of these players isn't much more than the $5 million a season, which the team is already paying guard Marcus Banks to sit at the end of their bench. The Suns have probably cost themselves one title, and maybe two, by avoiding adding a rookie salary or two. man Phoenix made worst decisions than we did is that possible?
well...you may be right - they haven't won a championship yet. Seems they would rather be competitve every year, then go all in if KG was on the table and it would have cost them Amare, you do that deal 10 out of 10 times...who cares about the team's future - you win the championship now, and let the chips fall where they may... oh well...at least we rocket fans can look at other teams and realize they aren't perfect either
I am interested in seeing what Buttler can do for us. Worst case, he sucks or has an attitude issue and he will sit at the end of our bench or in street clothes. Maybe, just maybe he learned something from Popovitch and or Horry/Duncan. It would have been nice to add a guy like Elson vs. Butler, but I have to believe that he will be an asset. I still think we should sign Deke.
this has to be speculation on the part of the writer. yes, butler should get himself in shape in order to replace deke as the backup center. under adleman, butler stands a better chance of earning minutes. however, those minutes will not be at pf where he is just too slow. i think scola and hayes have that spot locked up.
But if they make that trade, no ones going to buy tickets 3 years from now when Nash and KG's legs and back break down. I think it makes sense from a business point of view to keep Amare since they're already selling out every game without KG.
Scola and Butler were both steals. All we gave up was a second round pick. I doubt that. He only gets paid something like $2.2 million on a short contract. Not exactly radioactive.
See the issue is thus: if you're trading away a pile of dookie like Spanoulis - even if you just get a bucket of warm piss in return, you're coming out ahead. Not only is it not radioactive, but he's only got one year left + a team option - which makes it an asset.
Some of the VSPAN hate on this board reminds me of the b****iness that comes out when a girl has been spurned by the campus cutie.
The Spurs Won't Pay the Luxury Tax July 13, 2007 11:36 AM Posted by Kelly Dwyer I struggled with a way to take this post for a while, but things are starting to make sense now. The San Antonio Spurs, fat and sassy with their fourth title in nine years and their ability to make TV magic, passed on paying the luxury tax during the 2007-08 season. Why else would they trade the right to sign Luis Scola - considered the finest overseas prospect in these here hills - and an emerging pivot talent for a player who won't spend another minute in the NBA? After signing Matt Bonner and Fabricio Oberto to extensions that will combine to add nearly six-million caucasoid clams to their payroll next season, the Spurs sought to trim payroll enough to eke their way below the tax threshold. Scola is essentially a free agent, but all signs pointed against this potential Loy Vaught-clone (that's a good thing, cats and kittens) staying away from the Spurs due to a toxic mix of lack of minutes and lack of funds being sent his way. Enter Houston; a desperate rival stuck inside the same division, but also one that boasts an unhappy Greek point guard who can't shoot and won't shave and had Jeff Van Gundy turn him off the whole stateside appearance. Vassilis Spanoulis has absolutely zero leverage, his name sounds like a dish that would include pine nuts, and his agent actually told the Houston Chronicle last week that the Rockets could "trade him to San Antonio and he could be the starting point guard, and he would he would say, No, I cannot.'" So, no; he cannot, and the Spurs will buy him out. Jackie Butler's guaranteed contract will lope over to Houston-town and for some reason the Spurs decided to throw Scola's rights in as a sweetener. From there, we ask questions; to the cat, because nobody else is in the house right now. Was Scola's situation so dire that the Spurs were about to lose all leverage and they had to dump the guy? Jackie Butler for V-Span is already a huge steal for Houston - Butler is a darn good pivot prospect whose per-minute numbers (even at power forward, which surprised me) were quite encouraging even as a part of the New York Knick mess in 2004-05 and 2005-06. Isn't that deal, even with Bonner and Oberto's extensions, enough to miss the cap threshold once you buy Spanoulis out? Why throw in Scola? Was I wrong about RC Buford? I'd never seen him with sunnies on until that column was published. Should I have gone with Donnie Nelson? Nelson's signed Devean George - twice. The whole thing just shakes my faith. Either way, the trade is an absolute home run for the Rockets. Scola's reps already told the Houston Chronicle's Jonathan Feigen that he's well on his way toward coming over for 2007-08. I only wish the Rockets could send Butler to a team that could use his touch in the pivot. Stuck behind Yao Ming and Dikembe Mutombo in Rick Adelman's rotation; that's not a good start. And yet, it hardly changes what looks on paper to be one of the more lopsided NBA deals in the last decade.
I think the best upside to Butler is he develops into Yao's backup. and maybe some backup minutes at the 4. Maybe in a couple years he could be the first big off the bench but at this point he is the 5th big man after Yao Deke, Scola and Hayes
But also the Suns basically stole Leandro Barbosa from the Spurs and he's been better than all of the people you mentioned except maybe Luol Deng.
He may get playing time right away simply because adelman doesn't really play guy's that can't score. Scott pollard played,greg ostretag and few others would not play because they were offensive liabilities.If butler is effective offensively he will play dikembe's minutes
I've seen Butler play a few times when he was in NY. When he got traded to the Spurs, I thought that the Spurs made another under the radar move that benefits their team. Butler looked decent when he played. This is why Butler's addition makes this trade that much sweeter for me. On another note, I find it amusing that Spurs fans are all of a sudden making Scola out to be a scrub. This comes after he was considered untouchable by most Spurs fans. The counter arguement that SA beatwriters are making is that the Spurs free up a roster spot and save money to bring in Udoka and/or Splitter in the near future. All I have to say is the Spurs made a trade to help a conference, division, state, and long-time rival. Even if Scola turns out to be a complete bust, just remember what the Rockets gave up for him.
