July 2007: Are we still looknig for Bin Laden? This is the 1 person we know for sure had something to do with 9/11 and we still haven't got a clue where he is and what he doing? we ready to attack Iran and Bin Laden is still free. . . I just do not understand it someone explain it to me. . . why is this guy not Priority #1? Rocket River
One's a manhunt, the other's a military operation; different resources (to some extent), so I bet we can do both at the same time, if legitimately necessary. Frankly, I question the value of even bringing up bin Laden as a rhetorical or political point. Although he's responsible for 9/11, there are several other terrorists planning future attacks; our energy might be equally (or better?) utilized dealing with, or discussing, them.
Duh, we caught him, he was the one in the spider-hole right? There were some WMD's in the spider-hole as well as the person who mailed the anthrax, the yellow cake, the watch that got stolen from Bush, that guy who negligently got in front of dick cheney's shotgun, and those emails that karl rove lost.
Iran is far more important to the national interests of the United States in the long run than a disabled terrorist leader who hides in a cave.
I could not disagree more. Bin Laden is responsible for the greatest single attack in American history. As a nation that prides itself on justice and the rule of law, his capture should be #1 on the American agenda. While we certainly should not stop putting pressure on Iran, the reality is that once we went into Iraq we lost our ability to stop Iran from going nuclear.
Why is that? I strongly question the assumption that should Iran somehow get nukes, despite their claims of not pursuing weaponization, that they would willingly give it to extremists who would use it upon innocent people. For one thing, they wouldn't know if that group would turn on them in the future. Another is that they could have taken the N. Korea option, but their wording has been restrained given the context. Also, they aren't forbidden to have nuclear weapons. In the event of an Iran sponsored attack, we would know if they were responsible, and we'd have tens of thousands of options to respond in kind. So it wouldn't make sense for them to pursue this game with an aggressive position. All this time, before, since and after the Iraq invasion, Bush used the mention of Al Qaeda to further his objective. It would be nice if he finished something he started without stomaching failure as the end result.
That's a loser's mindset. If you want to win at something, you must keep persevering. By saying initially he is the number one target, and then not achieving it, and then saying its not important is a coward's way out.
We're not looking for Bin Laden. As long as the boogeyman is out there, King George II can try to keep the people scared. Bin Laden is George W. Bush's biggest asset in the "War on Terror". He can't afford to lose Bin Laden.
why would the bush administration want to capture their best ally and family business parter? why was george bush sr. having breakfast with bin ladens brother on the morning of 9/11? "The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." - G.W. Bush, 9/13/01 "I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'" - G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02 "I am truly not that concerned about him." - G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts, 3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)
I think that the last thing the Admin. wants to do is talk about Osama Bin Ladin as it represents a huge failure on the part of the whole war on terror. While GW Bush and others will continually bring up 9/11 notice that they almost never mention Bin Ladin because that would remind people that the mastermind has never been caught. If they thought he was a good boogeyman to scare people they would mention him more often. They've got the memory of 9/11, Iran and others as new boogeymen. If Osama Bin Ladin was caught or proven to be dead I'm pretty sure the President would trumpet that very loudly. Until then though bringing up Bin Ladin is just a reminder of the shortcomings of the war on terror. On a slight tangent my own personal opinion is that Osama Bin Ladin is likely dead already or near death. I haven't heard anything out of him for years and Ayman Al Zwahari seems to have taken up the role as spokesperson and rhetorical leader of Al Qaeda. IMO if Bin Ladin is dead they don't want to talk about it either as they know its an embarrassment to the US that Bin Ladin hasn't been caught and it keeps his legend going among their followers.
9/11 was the keystone to all the things that have happened after it. It was the single most significant event of the Bush Administration I was under the impression that bring the Criminals/Terrorist responsible was of the utmost importance. 3000+ Americans died that day . . .do they not deserve JUSTICE? Is that no longer Important? OBL is not the only threat to the US . . but he is the only one that has actually hit us. . . I think letting him roam free . . . .. . makes us look Weak and imcompentent Rocket River
A year and a half after our last conversation on this topic, we both still feel the same way. I hope we aren't having the same conversation again in 18 months, but I am afraid we will be (unless OBL kicks off first). http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=105354
We don't want to catch him. Never did. If he was to be caught it would have happened. Sooner you understand that the better off you will be.
That was Bush's fault. Bush is a loser. That doesn't make the fact that Iran is a better problem then OSB any less true.
I'm sorry but I just don't buy the conspiracy theory that US forces have let him go. If it was a matter of stoking fear among the public there are many other ways of doing it out there but if the Admin. thought Osama Bin Ladin would be the best way of doing so then you would see him mentioned all the time by the President and other Admin figures. We almost never hear Bin Ladin mentioned by the Admin because its embarrassing.