Great size and great athleticism, plus dominating the NBA bench players at 20 years old. That worths the whole MLE for 4 years. But I think Les is an cheap a$$ who wouldn't want to go over the LT threshold. Hope I'm wrong.
I think it's worth taking the risk. You offer him the full MLE for the shortest number of years, with the last year a team option. (4 years, with the 4th year a team option?) Sometimes, you have to roll the dice. We've been burned in the past, but we have new management, and if they think this could lead to a big payoff, then I say go for it.
he sounds great (this amir guy) but is it too early to throw the MLE at him? i wonder if landry is as good or better...
I just hope we get a guy who can make a real difference at the PF for us. I'm tired of all the cheap fixes this team goes for. We may not get an all star PF but we better get a guy that can win a few games for us and come up with a big play from time to time. I haven't seen Amir but he sounds like he could be more than an average plug of a player and that's what we need.
Not that I am prejudice or anything, :: insert big grin here :: but what do you call taking a charge at the end of game five of the Utah series?
Where are we getting this information that Morey really wants this kid? I have heard nothing anout him until today. Could someone tell me why would pay this type of money to a player that has done nothing in the NBA. If he is that talented, then why would the Pistons and every other team in the leauge not try and pick him up? Please, some one explain this to me in depth. Any video on this kid? Im intrested to learn more......
i was watchin some videos off of youtube over this kid..... I didnt know anything about him till now but I would sign him ....
Year 1 $3,500,000 Year 2 $3,780,000 Year 3 $4,060,000 Year 4 $4,340,000 Year 5 $4,6200,000 = $20,300,000 Dumars is claiming they would match any offer starting within $3,500,000 to $4,000,000 range over 5 years. Well starting at $3,500,000 that is over a $20 million contract. I think Dumars is full of it. If he's not though then obviously this kid must really have some serious potential. Then again if he is bluffing, which is is very much precisely the case, then Morey is going to have to offer up over $20 million just to see. Now, a rookie GM taking a gamble like that, especially for a team that needs so much to nail the PF selection and one that has an owner so afraid of the luxury tax, meaning you would be stuck with Johnson and a horrible contract if he busted. I mean how did this kid earn a $20 million plus contract? If he is THAT talented then in that case it's a moot point, because Detroit will match.
Better resigning Hayes before throwing a bigger contract to someone who only has played total 11 NBA games.
i have no idea who this guy is, so i wouldn't know whether to be sad or happy should we give him $20 million plus. i guess that's a good thing. a good prospect but has played less then a dozen games? i don't see morey throwing the mle at him.
It's no doubt Detroit is high on him, if not there's no need, bluff or not, to get worked up over a scrub.
I'd actually like to see the Rockets make a stab at Amir. Sure, he's unproven and we need the PF to help us win now and all that jazz (Ugh, I'm never using that word again.), but I'd love to see the Rockets give the guy a chance. He has promise. He has the talent and athleticism and that dreaded word "potential". But I look at it like this. As of now, Tracy McGrady is taller than all our PFs. We need size! This kid grew two inches after he was drafted, and now stands at 6'11''. The kid can rebound for us, he can block shots, and we can develop his offensive game under Adelman. I think we should call this bluff and try to sign him.
Well, he may not be worth 5 mil, but it's not like it would be such an terrible contract if he didn't live up to expectations. Given the position he playes, it's better to take a risk on over paying a power forward, than a guard or a small forward. At the very least, the kid can rebound and block shots. Depending on those two things alone, he could easily be worth 5 mil a year. If he develops offensively, then you have yourself a real steal. Remember, at 20, if he was an early 1st round draft pick (which is right around what his value would be), he'd be making about two thirds of that. You are really only risking 1.5 mil per season on potential. At a badly needed position for Houston, I think it's worth the risk. That's a lot of young talent at the 4. Johnson, Hayes, Landry, Novak (I like it). We'll catch lightning in a bottle with one of these guys. Plus with: Johnson (5 mil); Hayes (2 mil); Landry ($600,000); Novak (800,000) -- you have real value, and it's spred out. So far, I like what we've done in the off season. If Morey can't sign Johnson away from D-town for the MLE, and then make a trade to fix the logjam in our back court, I think we will have improved our team, not only for the long-term, but the short-term as well.
I think that pretty much says it all. I would personally take the risk because I dont think the Rockets FA pursuit will be affected by waiting 7 days. The Rockets might not make a FA move for another month when things settle out. So take the risk here and then look for trades. It's a great chance to get a young asset that brings a skillset that this team doesnt have and much be tough to get.
Yeah Rafer was voted as the greatest D-league player ever. Keep in mind that ESPN ranks Spain, Greece, Italy, and Russia about 2 levels above the NBDL, and keep in mind what this board thinks about what Spanoulis did in Greece. The most typical comment is usually something to the effect of, "Greece don't mean jack sh___, this is the freaking NBA son, not the little sissy boy's mama's league in Greece." Funny how so many people are citing NBDL (a league quite inferior to Greece) here. How do people feel about what Rafer has done? Would most want to offer up more than $20 million to a 20 year old Rafer? He is regarded as THE development league superstar of all time you know. I'm not saying Johnson couldn't turn out to be great and even a bargain at that price at all, he may in fact be a hell of a damn good player, I'm just saying that I don't believe IMO that you give big contracts based on NBDL play, you give minimum deals based on it. You give big contracts based on NBA play, and so far he has 11 games played in his career. And $20-$25 million, even as is being suggested here by many the full MLE, which would be about 5 years $32.5 million (based on early MLE estimates) or $6,500,000 a year for 5 years is a colossal contract based on 11 NBA games played in a career off the bench. He has great Moneyball stats, so this is like the ultimate gamble ever. But I am sure that being a rookie GM Morey does not have the cojones to do this. So this just doesn't seem likely to me. Because again if he is THAT talented that Detroit would give him deals in that range after just 11 games played, then they will match him.
If Detroit is truly in max terrority then what we should do is first offer up a trade for the guy. If Detroit refuses, let's sign him. It's only 7 days of risk. Sign him for the full MLE. This will make it hardest for Detroit to match. Let's see if they have the guts to go into luxury tax zone.
Yes he did, but it was in a different way, Fizer was on the low block and used his considerable size to clear space... Heck, Fizer is better than any Rockets PF right now, but he is a head case.... I would be happy if the Rockets took a look at him too....why not, we need PFs....and Fizer is better than Hayes. DD
