If I were McHale, unless he gets another superstar in return, I wouldn't do any deal that didn't involve an unconditional draft pick. There is no way they'll ever get equal value for Garnett, and a draft pick at least gives them a faint hope of getting a superstar.
How is that going to work under the cap? Those 4 guys make like maybe 7-8 mill all together. KG makes 22 mill. I guess 2 of Harrington, Jackson or Foyle have to be involved. That makes the deal not so appealing to the T-Wolves.
Yep...thats why I thought the rumored deal of the Wolves getting #3 and #11 from ATL plus Barbosa was the best deal. This GSW deal is horrible, I guess thats why McHale likes it.
Even if he was in a circle-shaped room, McHale would find a corner and paint himself into it. Teams don't have to offer big deals for KG because he'll leave the timberwolves at the end of the year anyway. It's a competition to see who can get KG for the lowest price.
Now you you people understand how big of blockbuster deal Warriors made on draft night by trading Richardson. LOL all the other teams trying to get Garnett have to package so much for him just to make it work but now if the Warriors do indeed get KG then it would be for basically Richardson, Biedrins and Monta Ellis. That is not even giving up an all-star in return cause J-Rich is in Charlotte LOL. Wolves basically get a long term project rookie plus 2 young bench players for a superstar like KG. Boy the Warriors are very smart. If you told me on draft night they could pull a trade for KG while only giving away those 3 players than I would laugh in your face. Seriously that is a genius management move Chris Mullin. Now I understand why they never did this 3 way deal on draft night with Bobcats and Wolves. Warriors too smart for that. They knew the minute the word KG is mentioned in a 3 way trade, the Bobcats would double their price for that trade exception and 8th pick. Golden State slow played there hand and is about to walk away with robbery in broad daylight if the can get this thing done even if they have to include Biedrins. B-diddy Barnes Jackson Harrington Garnett Pietris Foyle Jasikevicius That's a monstrous lineup and they still have a decent bench. This could propel the Warriors pass the Rockets and Jazz in the West as the 4th best team and contender for the title.
The Warriors also picked up a $10 million dollar trade exception from Charlotte as part of the J-Rich trade. This gives them considerable flexibility to pull the trade if they so wish.
This trade is so ridiculous. Take Monta out of the equation for a moment. Brandan Wright, Patrick O'Bryant, and Andris Biedrins? That'll leave Adonal Foyle as the only real big man left for the Warriors. There's no way it happens because Foyle is Nellie's nightmare center.
As much as I like to see a BDiddy/SJax/Barnes/Harrington/KG lineup, McHale will, of course, once again show us that he's an idiot of a GM. Meaning, he'll probably scoff at this deal and Garnett will play out his contract and leave. I rather see that happen than anything else. He's really doing a disservice to the player that has salvaged his job over the years. The rumored deals McHell has passed up: 1. Getting Odom and Bynum from the Lakers 2. Getting the #5 and players back from the Celtics 3. Getting #3 and #11 and a package of players including Diaw and maybe Barbosa 4. Now could be getting Biedrins,Ellis, and O'Bryant plus Wright from the Warriors It's really funny how he isn't willing to wheel and deal. Maybe he knows that once KG leaves town, McHale will have to find another job pretty soon.
Uh, Garnett... He's a "big man" by today's standards. KG's rebounding is what GS badly needs as well as quick defensive rotation. I don't think he really adds much offensively, if the offense is built around Davis.
But you can't combine the exception with salary, so this doesn't help them in terms of matching Garnett's cap number. Trying to put Richardson in a Garnett package would have made things a lot easier capwise.
Maybe I'm just slow, but fill me in on exactly how trading Richardson for the draft rights to Wright is such a smart move. Here's what I know: - KG makes about $21M/season. - Golden State doesn't enough cap room to outright sign Garnett, so they have to send back salaries within 25% of Garnett's salary. - Charlotte acquired Richardson's $10M salary in exchange for the draft rights to Wright who counts $0 for the purpose of a trade. Charlotte was able to do this because they had enough cap room to cover Richardson's entire salary.That gave GS a large TE, but it can't be combined with players and it can't cover Garnett's salary, so it doesn't help them acquire KG. So, here's where it gets fuzzy for me. GS needs to send between $15.75M and $26.25M back to Minnesota in order to match Garnett's salary. So, exactly how does having a rookie who counts $0 dollars in a trade help you do that more than Richardson's $10M contract would have? If Minnesota has to take back filler to get to the minimum amount ($15.75M), then wouldn't they have been more likely to take Richardson, who could actually help them (or had trade value) instead of $10M in dead weight? Ellis and Biedrens together make less than $3M. So, you're trying to tell me that including Foyle at $8M is more attractive to Minnesota than Richardson at $10M? Sorry, I'm not seeing your logic. If GS were serious about trying to acquire Garnett, then the smart thing to do would have been to include the Richardson to Charlotte deal as part of a three way with Minnesota. Then Minnesota wouldn't have had to take back so much salary since Charlotte could absorb the extra salaries. A deal like Biedrens, Ellis , Wright and small filler would have been much more attractive than Biedrens, Ellios, Wright and the boat anchor of a contract of either Foyle or Harrington. Chris Mullin may be a genius, but I'm just not getting it.
From what I understand a team can't include the TE with other players in a trade. It has to be straight up for another player. Meaning the Wolves would probably have to take on Foyle or they still need another team to facilitate the trade. The Bulls, Mavs and Suns are probably the only teams who can make straight up offers for KG. That $10 TE is huge though, it allows the Warriors all kinds of opportunities, especially if they wait mid season. If Davis went down that 10mil would be huge in a Kidd deal. They could pry a big man like AK or Gasol much easier. Exciting future for the Warriors...
Yeah, they could use it to absorb Hudson or Jaric's contract, but that's about the only way it would help in this deal.
Except that Kidd, AK47 and Gasol all make in excess of $12M, so the TE wouldn't help you acquire them. You're correct that the TE is an asset, but you need to set your sights a little lower (below $10M).
AK and Gasol I didn't know about. But Kidd I was just being an idiot about. Teams like the Knicks are gonna be calling up the Warriors soon though.
