LOLOLOL all those black chinese, tell me more. Please. Lots of chinese go through life without even seeing a real live white person. Any foreigner in tiananmen square will get asked to pose for numerous photographs by chinese tourists who have never seen westerners before. Black people? LOLOL, tell me MFW where do the black chinese live? Cause I've never seen them. Ha ha ha ha ha ha, this should be great. Try not to use too much profanity, you don't want ot get banned again.
Well, regarding Blacks in China - I'm sure there are some, but nothing significant. However I'm sure there will be an increasing number of Blacks (and Whites) in China as China becomes more international. Just look at Japan. There are alot of Japanese who do not "look" Asian. They all speak the language and carry Japanese passports. If you're a black man and you go to a country side in China, I'm sure people will look at you, and often you would be the first black person they've seen in person. If a Chinese person went to some rural part in Alabama or some other remote country town, I'm sure they would get stared at as well. It happens here too, so I don't want to hear that crap. The double standard sounds racist.
hmm i was in beijing 2 summers ago and there seems to be plenty foreigner at tianmen square, though they were taking pictures by themselves......but yes the majority of mainland chinese probably dont get to see a person of different ethnicity during their lifetime. i did see a handful of black people in china, a few in tianjin and a couple more in beijing, def not in the hundreds or thousands though.
So you can evaluate a NBA prospect better than an NBA international scout? <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/101LaNr-hJ4"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/101LaNr-hJ4" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object> What did you see in Yi that he's not a better talent than Charlie V and Gadzuric? Remember you are talking about 'talent' here, not the players that they are as of now. I am sure you will claim that you have followed this guy's career closely and watched every one of his games in the CBA. No one knows whether it is true or not and I believe no one'd care either. I'd prefer you to give us more in-depth analysis on the talent part though. Please convince me that you are better than the NBA scout. What is your day job anyway?
You see Sammy, when I call you a moron, it's not profanity. It's a statement of a fact. Which foreigners got asked to pose for photographs in Tiananmen Square. Are you sure your tiny mental capacity didn't mistake it for an Anhui trader trying to peddle contraband jeans or substandard hat? Anybody's money is good money, western tourists just happen to have more of it, not to mention they don't understand the market prices to know they are paying ten times more than they should. You know what's more pathetic about your moronic rants Sammy? The fact that you left your ass gaping open for rape, metaphorically. The way you put it, even if I can find one black person that emigrated to China, you'd look nothing short of braindead. But then again, it's nothing out of the usual for you...
Nope, nobody ever asked to sell me jeans. Anyway I'm pretty good at spotting touts and hustlers (the normal tactic in Tiananmen is not to sell jeans, it's the "please come see our art exhibition" routine) maybe they just wanted my picture because I'm incredibly handsome. But anyway, yeah, if you find one black chinese immigrant - MAN, I don't know what I'd do. Probably start raping and pillaging mercilessly.
Normal tactic in Tiananmen Square? HA HA, now I've heard of everything. There are quite a few "tactics" in Tiananmen Square. From the umbrella on rainy days, to hats in winter, to run from the cops pornal poker cards, to little cards offering hotel discounts, to dragging people to restaurants. If you've actually been there, you'd know. As for the second half of your post, Sammy, do we have to do this every post? Alright, here it goes again: is that your tacit admission, once again, that you don't have a point. Are there blacks in China or not? Yes or no answer. Doesn't get any simpler than that. Now flee... once again.
whoever started this thread, please find a reliable source about Yi saying he wants out of the Bucks.
This thread is so headed to D&D. China is not homogenous, there are a lot of other ethnicities. The cities themselves however, are overwhelmingly Han in culutre (and probably number as well). There are black people in China as early as 1988 from my own recollection. I was five at the time when I saw a him riding on a bicycle and pointed at him and shouted "look, a black man" to which he just smiled and (I think) and pointed back at me and said "look a chinese boy" as he rode away. I believe there are black people in China, don't know how many immigrants there are. I also do remember a couple news stories a couple of summer ago about illegal labors from Africa. However, I think in terms of people in Chinese cities having black people (or to a large regards any non Chinese people) they know on a social basis, such as friends, classmates, co-workers, neighbors etc, you'll see a much less of that compared to U.S. But then again no where else in the world can compare either. The melting pot experiment of U.S. is (imo) one of the greatest accomplishment of any nation to date and the real difference between U.S. and elsewhere. There's problems and inequalities but like a solid marriage the U.S. works to make things better overtime and hammer out the loose nails. Even Europe with all its progressive passe can't seem to make it work like the U.S. And oh yeah, I'm a big Steve Francis fan so I can't fault Yi too much if he doesn't want to the Bucks. Though I still don't understand the logic of drafting him when you have Bogut and Villanova on the team, maybe bigs become better trade bait.
Well, the proof is in the pictures. Somewhere in several family photo albums in random parts of china there's photos of a beaming chinese family and a confused, exceptionally handsome westerner wearing a newcastle united shirt. But anyway thanks for the interesting commentary on people selling hats in the winter and umbrellas in the rain - man that is KA-RAY-ZEE! I knew chinese were good at math but that is flat out genius! Tell me more! flee from what, a hideously stupid argument that only you seem to take seriously? No, baiting you is more fun. Anyway - yes I'm sure there are at least some black diplomats in china - of course, what the hell difference does that make? I never argued that there weren't. I'm just having a good time laughing about your idea of Harlem on the Yangtze - I have no idea why you're actually arguing about it, I just noticed that you were and thought it was funny. Anyway, go hang with some of your black chinese friends and leave me alone - I'm here to discuss the disrespect and shamefulness that Yi is showing with his insolent behavior. You little emperors are all alike. Sad.
Perhaps some of you would like to listen to the following recording from a recent interview of Del Harris of what he said about Yi after the NBA draft, and what he thought about the possibility of a Chinese government involvement in Yi's case, and also who may be really motivated to move Yi to a big market team. http://wssp.radiotown.com/audio/misc/del harris with GNC.mp3
Sam, with this post you've gone beyond baiting and insulting just a single poster. You are bordering on cultural insensitivity...........
Wow, your use of ellipses is super ominous looking here, consider me duly warned! Now I'm off to tiananmen square to buy some hats. You just made yourself a lifelong e-enemy! I hope you can deal with it.
Let me recap what the discussion has been thus far, since you are a late comer. About 3 pages back, (I believe it was) Another Brother who asked, to paraphrase, when has anyone seen a black person in China. My response was, there are, perhaps not as much as the US or certain other parts of the world, but "enough that people know they are there." No point was ever made on whether there are more, less than the US. No point was ever raised by me whether that is a good thing or a bad thing in one perceived manner or another. So unless you challenge the fact that there are black people in China, furthermore, even black people that have emigrated to China, I do not see what purpose your post is supposed to achieve. If I come off a bit rude, my apologies, no offence intended really. But it really was a simple yes/no question which doesn't get any more complicated than that. What is this? An idiot's anecdotal evidence to "prove" that Chinese people are impressed by westerners? Could I, by the same token, use anecdotal evidence in the Beijing subway that westerners did not get even a single look from the crowd and Qianmen subway station. Somehow though, I think my points outlining your idiocy has lost you somewhere. Tsk tsk tsk. Bullsh1ted enough that you lost your own train of thoughts again huh? You commented on a "routine" in Tiananmen Square. I simply proved that there is no such "routine," hence proving you a lying sack of **** in the process. Nothing more, nothing less. Nowhere did I either state or imply the alleged "genius" of the Chinese people. Let me guess, this is another of your pathetic attempts to sidetrack the issue when you are losing the argument, because you didn't have one to start with? On the contrary, this never was an argument to start with. And you know why it was stupid? Because you made it so. I'm only here because, admittedly I have a sick little pleasure in torturing the braindead like you. Guilty as charged. In other words, are you stating the only blacks in China are diplomats? Let me make it a multiple choice such that even you can understand: Are the only black people in China diplomats: a. Yes b. No Should I also define the term "black" just so there aren't any doubts? This part I actually thought was hilarious. So I stated a fact, which you actually admit is a fact, yet felt the need to open your trap nevertheless. This part is even funnier. Nobody asked you to join the discussion, but you did nevertheless. Now I should be the one to leave you alone? Truly amusing. If you actually had the intelligence not to get involved in the first place, you'd simply be an idiot instead of a proven idiot. One more little thing too. In our prior encounters (if I recall) you had claimed to have been a driver for the warlord Zhang Zuolin, an Uyghur, and who knows what else. So that makes you a white Uyghur who drove for Zhang Zuolin? Impressive resume I'd say. Caught in a couple of lies or should I use the search feature?
One more thing. In reality, there really is a thing as "Han culture." It is more an amalgamation of thousands of distinct cultures which even today, isn't integrated. Han culture in Shandong is nothing like Han culture in Shaanxi is nothing like Han culture in Sichuan. Placing them in the same "nationality" does not make them homogeneous, irrespect of the minority groups.
MFW, I read part of your rant, but I beg you to use the search function, cause I was never the driver for a Uighur warlord.....or WAS I? LOL, this little bit of fiction leads me to believe you have many internet enemies worldwide - surprising, ha ha.
LOL ... total pwnage of SamFisher by MFW. Indeed, SamFisher's adventures in northwestern China should be of interest to the readers of this forum. In various posts of his in the past, SamFisher has showed considerable amount of affinity to the Uyghur separatist movement (part of East Turkestan Islamic Movement), which has been linked to a series of activities including kidnappings, murders and bombings. Classified by both PRC and US governments as terrorists (or termed as freedom fighters by SamFisher), militant Uyghur extremists are known to have ties to Al Qaeda. It remains to be seen how much SamFisher's various trips to China is financed by one or more NGOs he's associated with.
I haven't paid much attention to this ridiculous tangent, but I've been told that one source of black people coming to China recently are students from Africa (mostly South Africa I believe) going to attend university there.
Strange as this subject of blacks and racism in China has come up in this thread. I'll give you my second hand input. One of my closest friends that just came home less than 2 months ago from living in Beijing for almost 2 years there. He went to a college in Beijing to study the Mandarin language and his fighting, he already had a black belt in Taekwondo and had studied the language a little (they had some special fighting program) at some college in the city that has a huge international program with dorms specifically for foreigners from all over the world. He didn't see many blacks. There we're a few, not many at all in Beijing. He said that most of the Chinese people don't like them and have them stereotyped for being loud and obnoxious. Again, this is what he was told. As for being white, the girls loved it. I can tell you he is not a stud or has game by any means, but over there, many women were always interested in him. I don't know if it was just because the color of his skin, the fact they thought he was rich since he was over there, curiosity, or he could be their ticket to a US Citizenship. But he did have a hot girlfriend for a year he showed me pictures of. On a positive note, he did say there were many Rockets fans at the school where there would be large numbers of students gathering and cheering loudly watching the games in a rec area and seeing people in Rockets gear is normal. The bars would also get crowded and rowdy at times as people watched the Rockets play there as well. Also, he said many people talked mostly about some other Chinese basketball player, not Li. He couldn't remember the name and isn't into basketball much so i couldn't get it. Do they have another prodigy we'll see soon? I haven't looked at their league.
