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Rashard still in Rockets plan? (link)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by #1draftpik, Jun 29, 2007.

  1. BamBam

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    Interesting.....
     
  2. B.I.G

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    The Knicks have said they will not give up Lee. Balkman, Collins, and Chandler suck. Luther with Battier and Sura's contract are way better than having to take on one of the Knicks bad contracts. Try thinking out of the box a bit before your next post.
     
  3. BBall Scientist

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    Seattle has been wanting Ridnour gone for awhile now. I bet Brooks, Head, Alston, and Battier could actually get it done quite easily. With Ridnour and Lewis coming to Houston.

    I haven't looked at the salaries, but something like that with filler would make sense.

    It would basically be Brooks and Head for Ridnour, and then Alston and Battier for Lewis. The bottom line is if Alexander is willing to pay then it is a no-brainer for Lewis to come to Houston way over those other teams.

    But if Alexander doesn't cough up the $80 million then it's doubtful because Lewis already doesn't trust Houston after that draft day fiasco.

    Seattle:

    PG Watson/Alston/Brooks
    SG Battier/Head
    SF Green/Gelabale
    PF Durant/Wilcox/Sene
    C Collison/Swift/Petro

    Houston:

    PG James/Ridnour/Lucas
    SG McGrady/Wells/Spanoulis
    SF Lewis/Snyder/Novak
    PF _____Hayes/Landry
    C Yao/Mutombo/Tsakalidis


    The Rockets could still package Sura (he actually makes $4,160,000 I don't why every source keeps posting the wrong salary) for someone in a sign and trade for MLE money to play PF.

    Either that or Adelman goes small

    PG James/Ridnour/Lucas
    SG Wells/Spanoulis
    SF McGrady/Snyder/Novak
    PF Lewis/Hayes/Landry
    C Yao/Mutombo/Tsakalidis.

    In that case all Houston would have to do is re-sign Hayes, Mutombo, and Tsakalidis, whom will all be relatively cheap and inform Spanoulis that he will be getting 12-18 minutes every game as that above roster would dictate and that way they don't have to shell out more money, which probably solves the money issue with Lewis.

    One thing is for sure, that is one hell of a scary offensive team. The outside shooting and scoring would be insane, multiple lineups that could all score and Yao and McGrady might not see another double team.
     
  4. The Brian

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    PG James/Ridnour/Lucas
    SG Wells/Spanoulis
    SF McGrady/Snyder/Novak
    PF Lewis/Hayes/Landry
    C Yao/Mutombo/Tsakalidis

    what i love about a roster like this one is that it has so much variety.

    we have several scorers in this situation and we can play more uptempo, or more half court.

    just switch players around as needed.
     
  5. NIKEstrad

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    According to whom?

    You forgot Seattle picked up Delonte West (probably their starting PG) and Wally Sczerbiak in the Ray Allen trade. They don't need to add 2 PGs like Alston and Brooks.
     
  6. Rockets kupo

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    i suggest peak should offer a shoe contract to rashard ;)
     
  7. The Brian

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    ahh, true.

    but i'm pretty sure they're not entirely happy starting west.
     
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    Lewis will follow the money to Orlando. He's not giving a hometown discount and he's not worth $80 mil.
     
  9. SamFisher

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    That's irrelevant to your original post, which i will quote for you as you seem to have forgotten:
    I see nothing in this sentence about your qualification about who the knicks "said" they would offer, rather you are speaking in the absolute terms - and were rather obviously wrong because you overlooked Lee.

    Further, the knicks just acquired Zach Randolph the other day. How many minutes are there now for Lee with both Curry and Randolph on the court for 30-40 mpg? Not that many, in my estimation.

    Uh, Balkman most definitely does not suck, you have obviously not seen him play and have no clue what you are talking about. He's very effective on the court, which is why he posted a 17.4 PER last year - that would be higher than anybody on the Rockets save Yao or McGrady.

    Collins may in fact suck, but he hasn't played much one way or the other.

    As for Chandler - he was drafted two days ago has yet to play an NBA game, so you are about as premature in this as your ejaculation about the knicks not having any talent to offer

    Finally as for contracts - I never said anything about that, nor did your original post, which spoke purely in terms of talent. Anyway, the Knicks have Malik Rose's 6 mil coming off the cap next year, which is bigger than Sura's deal, if you are looking for flexibility.

    next time you try to save face try not to compound it by looking even dumber than before and then acting like a douchebag about it.
     
  10. BimaThug

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    As much as I like Rashard, I just don't think he's the best value for the Rockets.

    I'd much rather stick with Battier at ~$6M per than have Lewis (who is not a very good defender) at ~$13-15M per, which is what he's going to want.

    The Rockets should be looking for a player in a more reasonable salary range as a third scorer. Somewhere between $8-10M per would give the Rockets a little more luxury tax flexibility.
     
  11. goyao11

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    that roster would have NO defense whatsoever.

    It might be fun during the season, but we would get destroyed during the playoffs when our dribble penetration (james and Mac to some degree) gets stifled and our jumpshooting (yao, Lewis, mac) gets shut down. We wouldn't be able to grind it out at all and we would get destroyed a la sun style
     
  12. The Brian

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    yes, we lose defense in battier, but that's the only player we lose that played any defense. head is a great shooter, but was a defensive liability. our defense will take a hit, but it's something i'm sure won't automatically handicap us. it won't be that bad.

    also, you're funny about the playoff scenario. yao and t-mac this year did it all on offense, and we still almost beat utah.

    now add a scorer off the bench in james and i doubt we're going to get "stifled".

    now on top of that, you add rashard lewis, a player who can score 25+ points on any given night and a dangerous three point shooter.

    now on top of that add bonzi wells who destroyed the spurs just two years ago. if he is anywhere near that form, he'll be an incredible asset.

    with yao, t-mac, lewis, who can you double without leaving a potent scorer open?
     
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    Delonte West, although being quite a nice little player, is a 6-2 180 pound SG, he's definietly not a starting caliber point guard in the western conference. He's just a 2nd string or 3rd string SG in the west, much like Luther Head. Wally is trade fodder for them, he can score and shoot, but he's pretty much been a walking injury lately. It was just a pure salary dump by Boston. I doubt that either of them is in their plans, just were in there from Boston wanting to dump them.

    This is Sura's official salary. Not one taken from The Chronicle or Hoopshype.com

    2004-2005 season

    $3,200,000

    2005-2006 season

    $3,520,000

    2006-2007 season

    $3,840,000

    2007-2008 season (player option)

    $4,160,000 ($1,000,000 guaranteed)

    total

    4 years $14,720,000 ($11,560,000 guaranteed)


    I have absolutely no clue as to why Sura's salary last year keeps being listed as what is the salary for this year.
     
  15. B.I.G

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    Dude stop making up your own rules. You can say that you would not be happy with West. But please do not act like you have been told by Presti that he wants a different starter.
     
  16. B.I.G

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    The only way we can get him is through a s-and-t. In which case he does not have to take any sort of discount we could pay him just as much as Orlando.
     
  17. The Brian

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    i didn't "act" like i was told anything by anyone.

    my statement was my own opinion on what i think the sonics would be thinking. i never said anything to suggest anything but that.

    i believe this thread is about the hypothetical, not the concrete.

    Also, please do not act like you have been told by Presti that Delonte West is going to be the starter. :eek:
     
  18. B.I.G

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    Would you please look at the whole of what I said and stop getting your little feeling hurt when someone argues a point. There is no way to justify your saying that the Knicks can or will out do our offer with young talent.

    It really does not matter what you want to make up concerning the way you feel about the Lee situation when the Times and the Post have reported Isiah as saying Lee is going no where.

    Plus you have to be kidding if you actually think that Balkman is more desirable than Luther. I have seen him at the Garden more than a few times and a guy who gets 15 minutes a game on the Knicks is not very good.

    Finally I do not know if you are aware but Rashard has always expressed intrest in playing in his home town so if it comes down too it Rashard has a large say in where he plays.
     
  19. X-PAC

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    Supposedly, the Rockets are going after Lewis to see. I guess you have to try despite how long this shot is.

    Chron Blog
     
  20. Possum

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    This is something that should be considerd. Battiers contract stipulates that if he istraded his contract with them is voided. That would leave an oppening for them to sign another player. ;) Cant remember what Battiers contract is worth but it wasnt chump change I'll tell you that. If you think it wont get mentioned to Lewis you are fooling yourself. IMO we have alot better chance than most think.
     

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