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Willis Should Start!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ricerocket, Nov 2, 2001.

  1. ricerocket

    ricerocket Member

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    Look at the play and the numbers and it shows he should start. I say put him in with Cato, bring in Kenny at power forward and slide Willis over to center. Then bring in Griffin for Kenny and Cato in for Willis. Repeat by putting Willis back at power forward.

    Rice and Williams can rotate, with an occasional TMo until he solidly deserves to go ahead of Williams (which is pretty close to being right now)
     
  2. crash5179

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    I disagree. I think Cato is a lot more productive as a starter. If you bring him off the bench I think it negitively effects his psychi. I remember him playing welll a couple of years ago before he got hurt and then when he got healthy he had to come in off the bench behind Dream. He seemed to loose interest in the season as a sub and his overall effort just vanished. Last year when he played as Dreams sub he never produced anything. Now it seems he is at least hustling, grabbing some boards and playing some defense. Willis is going to produce regardless if he gets his minutes starting or coming off of the bench.
     
  3. RocksMillenium

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    Keep Cato in. A lot of the people who didn't want Marc Jackson said they wanted a "defender, rebounder, and shot-blocker, we don't need a scorer in the paint". Cato isn't score as much, but in the first few games he is blocking shots, playing solid defense, taking charges, and averaging 9 rpg. That's exactly what we need from the center spot, and Willis is giving us excellent production from the bench, why change that?
     
  4. Tb-Cain

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    I agree. Cato benefits from the confidence that the coaching staff and teammate have given him. Why undermine that? And Willis is accepting of his role.

    It's not always who starts that matters, it's production
     
  5. Band Geek Mobster

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    I believe ricerocket is saying that Cato and Willis should both start with KT coming off the bench.
     
  6. Tb-Cain

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    :( happens to the best of us.

    Now, having actually READ the post, I like the idea against certain teams.
     
  7. Rocketability

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    I think you, ricerocket, are saying:

    Start: Cato @ C, Willis @ PF
    1st sub: Willis @ C, KT @ PF
    2nd sub: Cato @ C, EG @ PF

    Am I right? If so, I would agree.
     
  8. playahata

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    Cato's production directly correlates with his attitude. When he gets fouls called on him and starts pouting he is worthless. That's frequently the attitude he takes. The Willis pick up is huge. He has instantly given us some credible play in the middle by being a dedicated rebounder...unlike Cato most of the time. Has anyone noticed Cuttino starting to get a lot of boards???
     
  9. Bay Rock

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    I think last night is a perfect example of why you don't want to start both Cato and Willis. Who do you bring in off the bench for an interior presence?

    Last night, when Cato and KT got in foul trouble, you had Willis to bring in and production did not go down. I think Cato and Willis make a good 1, 2 punch.
     
  10. ricerocket

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    Rocketability: Correct, we thank you for your support

    Bay Rock: No one. Willis slides over to Center and KT comes in at Power forward fist shift.
     
  11. kidrock8

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    If Willis starts, you can kiss Francis and Mobley getting early shots goodbye.

    Willis is perfect off the bench with the 2nd unit.

    He shoots the ball everytime he gets it, and I don't want him stealing the ball from Mobley and Francis.

    Let him take his shots when he is in with the 2nd team.

    If we start Willis, who the hell scores on our 2nd team?
     
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    Dont mess with a good thing. We have two wins and everything is just dandy right now. Lets not go screwing around and reconfiguring the lineup to our little likings just yet.


    Anyways Kevin Willis is much more effective coming off the bench. Just when the guys begin to peter out Willis storms in off the bench to revive the guys with much needed energy. We need that off the bench in the 2nd quarter more than we need that at the begininng of the game.


    Man let it be, let it be, let it be.
     
  13. mfgarza

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    If Willis starts, you can kiss Francis and Mobley getting early shots goodbye. He shoots the ball everytime he gets it, and I don't want him stealing the ball from Mobley and Francis.
    How is that gonna happen when Francis and Mobely bring the ball up? Its them that dictates who will get the ball. If you've noticed Willis has played alot w/both of them and he's got the ball in the lost post a few times. Most of his shots came from Francis and Mobley driving and dishing to him for a easy layup or dunk. But I do like having Cato starting cuz he does seem to care more when he starts. Willis is a pro and can handle coming off the bench. There's gonna be times where I'd like to see them both in there.
     
  14. ricerocket

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    I reiterate my point! Willis is the only inside presence we have. Thomas is a sub par sub at best.
     
  15. tycoonchip

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    i think cato is doin fine.... he's building his confidence right now... throw willis in there we might ruin cato for good... willis can maybe slide and start with cato but don't take cato out of the starting lineup. i don't like kenny though... either he or mo gotta go. griffin is a lock to be startin soon....
     
  16. KALIKULI

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    I like to have Cato and Wilis on starting five but if both have same foul problem which will happen in a lot of games with the new rules , I think it will be better to have the same line up and let Wilis be the starting Center and have Cato coming out of the bench. Besides, I hate to say but Cato's attitude really hurt his game.
     
  17. kidrock8

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    We have to have Willis off the bench for balanced scoring.

    If we start Willis, who the hell comes off the bench to provide points?
     
  18. KeepKenny

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    i was just looking at some stats, and Willis averages 22.4 rebounds per 48 minutes! by far the highest out of anyone in the league. Thank god we picked him up. I don't care if he starts, as long as gets a good deal of minutes.
     
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    If Willis averages more than 25 mpg, then we are in trouble. He'll get hurt or run down. Let Cato start and Willis end where he's needed the most (since all our games seem to go to the last possession).
     
  20. leebigez

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    Where would we be without willis. Can you picture our situation with Collier was the back-up. We probably would not win any games.
     

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