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Gerald Wallace

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Bono, Jun 27, 2007.

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  1. yao ming 34

    yao ming 34 Member

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    there arent that many teams that have more than the midlevel to offer...wallace...shouldnt get more than the midlevel..hes not even an all star..orlando already has howard.......i think we could sign him for the full midlevel ....Yao
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  2. matty101

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    Is he the 4 we are needing though? IMO he is a 3 man/slasher. If people are whining about Battier being a PF then i dont see Wallace filling our needs. We need an athletic rebounding 4 who can block shots and has some range (R Wallace, Wilcox, Haslem?? Diaw??)

    Maybe some of them are out of our reach but a few can be gotton for a good price. Or why not throw a spanner into the works and try and pry a guy like Sean May or Sheldon Williams away from their teams. Is a gamble but both have pretty big upsides.

    Back to the topic though i just dont see G Wallace being as effective here as he was in Charlotte in previous years. Doesnt fit the Criteria we need in a 4 man IMO
     
  3. GATER

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    Lord knows I'm ALL for getting rid of Battier. But if you're going to create trades for Battier...make it a PF. That moves McGrady back to SF (primarily defensively) where he belongs. And these scenarios don't even have to involve FA's.
     
  4. TeamUSA

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    Nah! We already have Snyder.
     
  5. BackNthDay

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    Slick Rick has a very good relationship with a lot of former players so I don't discount the fact that Gerald Wallace may be an option. However, I don't think giving up Battier is the option.

    I would think a sign and trade including rafer and kirk would go a long way to landing him.
     
  6. allforone

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    i've been rooting for him from day one ....
    God bless the Rox lineup : Yao, Battier , T-Mac, Wallace , Mj
     
  7. Mehdi

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    i would love to have G.W. butt i really dont see us getting him..hopefully im wrong but i bet hes going to want way more than the rockets are thinking bout
     
  8. Matt78777

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    I always loved Wallace, and thought we should have tried for him when he was a restricted free agent. Now he's blown up and we can't afford him. It's good that he's a free agent though, because he'll command huge money and there are only a few teams that can afford him. Between Billups, Lewis, Mo Williams, Wallace and possibly Carter, all the teams under the salary cap will have no money left, meaning that those good not great players might be forced to take less money, so some players that would normally be out of our price range would be in it.

    Free Agents who won't command ridiculous salaries as a result of the aforementioned players and could possibly be in our price range:

    Darko
    Varejao
    Matt Carroll
    Deshawn Stevenson
    Ime Udoka
    Mikael Pietrus
    Chucky Atkins
    Matt Barnes
    Jason Kapono
    Travis Outlaw

    Okay, so none of these guys are perfect fits, but they could all contribute. Any other season most of them would be out of our range because some stupid GM would throw gobs of money at them just because they can.

    Of the group, I like Carroll and Stevenson and maybe Darko. Carroll and Stevenson are both shooters, but Carroll also gets to the free throw line and Stevenson can defend. I know we need a power forward but Darko is too much of a question mark and Varejao is a taller Hayes, we should look elsewhere for a PF.
     
  9. roflmcwaffles

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    So basically what you are saying we gave up Rudy Gay and Swift for a guy that we are gonna trade with ANOTHER draft pick to get someone older but very similar athletically to Rudy Gay + Injury prone.

    Hmmz good trading by Rockets if this happens :rolleyes:
     
  10. pugsly8422

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    I'd love to get GWall, but I don't think we'll be able to afford him. One thing nobody has mentioned yet is his injury history....go take a look at it and you may have second thoughts about wanting him on your team.

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  11. B.I.G

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    No he will get about 8mil on the open market.
     
  12. Sherlock

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    As others have mentioned, we need a PF, not a SF. End of story. If we were able to get Artest with misc parts like Sura, Snyder and VSpan, then if we wanted to trade Battier for a PF, that's a possiblity. But, to trade Battier and other parts for another SF, that doesn't make sense.
     
  13. saleem

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    I agree with your thinking.
     
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    you're right, but if you could foretell that that PF of your dreams isn't coming, then you'd want to go ahead and make a move like this.

    The only negative against GWallace is where he plays. Charlotte sucks...are his stats inflated because of that?

    Probably, but probably not a lot.

    He's not Rashard Lewis good, but he is pretty close to it, especially considering in fewer minutes per game he gets more rebounds, assists, steals and blocked shots. And he's younger. But 3 point percentage is so important in today's NBA, I give the nod to Rashard.

    T-Mac, Yao, Wallace would be a pretty good 1,2,3.

    If you could pick up Darko with the MLE, another big with the draft (throw-in Glen Davis to just name someone), and another veteran at any position for the LLE, re-sign Deke, things wouldn't be all bad.

    PG: James, Alston, JLIII, V-Span
    SG: T-Mac, Bonzi, Luther, James
    SF: Wallace, Bonzi, T-Mac, Luther
    PF: Darko, Chucky, Glen Davis, Novak
    C: Yao, Darko, Deke
    Other: - LLE signing

    That would be a much, much improved team, even with JVG as coach. The fact that it suits Adelman's style even more is an added bonus.

    Would I rather try and trade Battier for a lotto pick, or Marcus Camby, or Al Jefferson...or something...sure, but I don't think any of that is going to happen.

    Would I rather try and trade Battier for Chris Wilcox type player? No. Wallace rebounds as much as he does, is a significantly better player, and I'd just as soon try and sign a Darko at PF, despite his deficiencies, if it meant I could add Wallace as my true third scorer.
     
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    Move McGrady "back to SF (primarility defensively)"? McGrady was playing SF defensively most of the time already. Specifically, Battier pretty much alway took on the tougher defensive wing assignment, whether it is Lebron James, Kobe Bryant, Ben Gordon.

    There is no moving McGrady back to SF defensively.
     
  16. Yao#1

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    Exactly, everyone who is all for trading Battier and inserting Bonzi into the starting lineup at the SG should think about what that does to us defensively. Do you think Bonzi is going to be chasing down Kobe, Dwade, Lebron, and Ray Allen all over the perimeter like Battier does. If anything having Tmac and Bonzi on the court probably makes Tmac play more defense against SG.
     
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    Lord knows you have the wrong idea.
     
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    If you can get Wallace for less than 10 million on a sign and trade then hell yes get that done. I'd be more than happy to trade Battier too and whatever else they want in Charlotte.

    Wallace is a DAMN good rebounder for a small forward and a very good one-on-one defender, the kind of guy you want to stick on Kobe or LeBron. He's superior to Battier when it comes to individual defense, and while he isn't the intangibles/hustle guy, he's still very good in that regard.

    Oh and he's only 24 years old with tons of room to improve. His offensive game has grown leaps and bounds in Charlotte. The guy's a great slasher who can create his own offense and has really started to develop a mid-range game. His 3 point percentage has increased every year and he shoots 50% overall which is awesome for a non-post player.

    We all whine for Rashard, but I'd take Wallace over him any day of the week. Rashard is soft, and settles for way too many jumpers. Wallace is a slasher who can actually get into the lane and in a motion offense, that's pretty key. Oh and Wallace plays defense.
     
  19. Shroopy2

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    Said it already,
    EVERY team could use a Gerald Wallace
     
  20. panamamyers

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    He's not Rashard Lewis good my ass lol

    Gerald Wallace is Scottie Pippen to Rashard Lewis' Dale Ellis
    Gerald Wallace is a role player like Battier, excet 5 or 6 nothces better. Much more athletic. Better defender, Better scorer, Better rebounder, Gets morw steals. If you can give up Battier and the pick for wallace, you'd be a fool not to.
     

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