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[790am] Daryl Morey (6/25)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by durvasa, Jun 25, 2007.

  1. Stevie Wonder

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    Clutch of those 4 draftee's you mentioned which would be your pecking order? Upside I would go Thaddeus Young, Sean Williams, Jason Smith, McRoberts.....

    I'm not high on Smith or Roberts and it has nothing todo with them being whiteboys.... :D
     
  2. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    I don't think we will have enough ammunition to get him. Most people believe he is a top 12 to 13 pick. I don't think we can get that high.
     
  3. Deuce

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    Put me down for Sean Williams or Thaddeus Young. I think the Lakers at #19 is the prime "move up" target spot.
     
  4. RedRowdy111

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    So I think they list of guys possibly being moved are:

    Bob Sura's Contract
    Luther Head
    Kirk Snyder
    Vassilis Spanoulis
    Shane Battier
    John Lucas
    Rafer Alston

    i'm sure that debatable but those are the only guys that seem to be on the fence
     
  5. RedRowdy111

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    You think the Cook/Head trade could be involved?
     
  6. Honey Bear

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    Thornton lacks a real position in the NBA, making him a tweener. To compound matters, he is a tweener without a good handle or the ability to rebound. He should easily slide past the lottery, possibly into the late teens.
     
  7. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    It's possible. But I haven't seen a single mock suggesting that. And I believe he even got invited to the Green Room which ususally indicates most GMs feel he will go in the top 15 or so.

    But, we've seen people drop in the past like Green and Granger, so you never know.
     
  8. Deuce

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    Very possible, putting a couple of rumors together. One could make a case for the Lakers wanting a veteran shooter like Head and only have to move back 7 spots. The Lakers are in "win now" mode so they are looking for vets, not young draft pick prospects.
     
  9. Stevie Wonder

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    Chauncey Billups is a FA as of July 1.... One can dream can't he...... ;)
     
  10. RedRowdy111

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    From my research, the guy is comparable to a Maggette/Al Harrington/Ariza which doesnt seem to fit the bill for our need for interior rebounding. Thorton would be nice but not really needed.

    I'm shocked that Yi hasnt been mentioned much by Rocket fans since he and Yao obviously have a past. I have read he wants to be in a big Asian market which Houstons diverse culture seems to hold. If he drops past 7, could he even be on the radar. I know the language barrier is going to be hard on him, especially as a rookie. It seems to matter less on our team. Hmmmmm.
     
  11. Clutch

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    Those would be my two hunches... I think Sean Williams for some reason first. I think Morey knows Williams is going before #26 and I think a "trade up" wouldn't be too far up. Just a barely educated guess since I'm sure only a couple of people really know, but I would guess Williams or Young would be the targets.

    But that's what's wild about this draft... there could be a pick that makes sense in Morey's World (Fazekas), one that could make sense in Adelman's World (McRoberts), one that could make sense in Les' World (anyone from China) and one that could make sense in Marketing World (Big Baby). Whoever we pick in the end, we'll probably all go, "Oh yeah, why didn't we see that coming?"
     
  12. RedRowdy111

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    I dont know last year was a swerve and a half. Damn T-Wolves and Blazers messed it all up. We were so close to getting Roy!
     
  13. Honey Bear

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    It's also important to note that alot of teams in the teens are looking to fill positions. GM's with lottery picks are going to be afraid to pick a sure thing like Thornton who they know will be a Corliss Williamson type impact player (isolation specialist, good finisher) and nothing more. If Philadelphia doesn't pick him, he could fall all the way down to the #19-20 pick.
     
  14. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    why do you say that? I think mcroberts could fall as far as 26, or like you said he's not that much of a trade up to get him. I really like McRoberts and I fully support any players from Duke, but as of him fitting in our rotation under the Adelman vision I'm not quite sure. I don't think he has a high enough presence to really get the job done and help yao out. but as StevieWonder said i can dream can't i?
     
  15. Honey Bear

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    It was the Celtics stupidity that started it all. As soon as they traded for Telfair I remember thinking how Portland had us by the balls.
     
  16. RedRowdy111

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    Well all the mocks i read have Yi going 10th to the Kings. I suppose if they pass on him , he could possibly slip due to the demand of a Asian market. I remember he was like a 3rd or 4th pick a couple of weeks ago in the mocks.

    I am going on record to say we will pick up a additional 2nd rounder and nab Glen Davis.
     
  17. RedRowdy111

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    It was a cheap shot by a committee of all 3 teams.
     
  18. Sooner423

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    Everybody and their mother compares him to Webber.
     
  19. jopatmc

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    Actually, I was dreaming. Sorry for the confusion.

    Frankly, I think Morey is just putting out bologna. I can't believe a GM would go on the air right before the draft and reveal they already had a trade mapped out.
     
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    This has been mentioned in some other threads, but what about Darko? The Orlando GM seemed to indicate earlier that they would not go over $40 million for Darko. Darko's out there, he could conceivably be had for something like $48 million over 6 years or $50 million over 5 years (Kaman type money), in a sign and trade. I also remember Darko's agent saying that if some team offered $60 million over 6 years (Nene type money), Darko was theres in an instant.

    Orlando also has no first round pick, but does have 2 second round picks, one of them being pick #44, which is right where Morey specifically mentioned he was looking at some possibilities, despite the Rockets having no pick in that range.

    Looking at Orlando's roster:

    PG Nelson/Dooling/Arroyo
    SG Ariza/Redick
    SF Turkoglu/Bogans
    PF Darko/Augustine/Garrity
    C Howard/Battie

    They have picks #44 and #54 it doesn't really seem like the Rockets have anything they need unless it's Rafer and Bonzi. They need a better point guard and they need a better shooting guard and if they trade Darko then they need a power forward. Still, it's interesting because if the Rockets got say a Sean Williams with their pick or traded up to get him, then maybe Orlando could move Darko, provided they got a better shooting guard and point guard and a young PF with talent and potential (Williams).

    Luther Head is just a less pure shooting with less range, smaller, more athletic Redick so that seems redundant. They have Bogans and Redick so Snyder seems of little use. But their point guards and starting shooting guard are not going to cut it, nor are those draft positions. It's sad, but really Rafer would be an upgrade for them. Plus what can Orlando lure with the MLE?

    I think although it's highly unlikely, it is nevertheless possible that if Darko demanded he wanted to come to Houston, a Sean Williams at 26 if he falls there, and Rafer Alston and Bonzi Wells in exchange for Darko in a sign and trade could happen, contigent on Darko demanding to come to Houston.

    That could also explain the #40-#45 pick as Orlando could send that pick to Houston, then it could also explain the trade being contingent on who falls in the draft, say the Rockets get Williams, and Orlando has no PF's like Williams fall to #44. Darko could be a "near-all star" within a year or two. This would also allow for Head being moved to the Lakers so the Rockets could move up to get Williams, and give more depth at PF with Cook. Then by moving Wells, Head, and Alston you clear up room for Spanoulis at backup point guard and you allow room for Snyder at backup shooting guard and Novak at backup SF.

    PG James/Spanoulis/Lucas
    SG McGrady/Snyder
    SF Battier/Novak/Reed
    PF Darko/Hayes/Cook
    C Yao/Mutombo/Pick#44

    That's an incredible upgrade from over last year just by swapping James and Darko with Alston and Howard. It also allows Snyder, Novak, and Spanoulis, the 3 young players with untapped potential, to get some PT. If this is something Morey is working out, he's GM of the year, there's still the MLE left unused and the LLE.


    But this is all likely just pure day dreaming.
     

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