King James, the most overRated player in the league?

aka ace · Jun 23, 2007

A_3PO said:

Did you ever think MJ never played in the Finals at age 22 and he never played with a team so overmatched in talent and coaching like these Cavs were? I doubt it.

You guys who love taking shots at LeBron need to chill. You are just as bad (or worse sometimes) than people who overrate him. Is it jealousy? Why does LeBron bring out the worst in you? Try taking a deep breath and looking at the real picture. What he has accomplished in his short career is amazing considering the horrible franchise he plays for.
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You need to take a step back... what makes YOU think LeBron is good? What has he accomplished in his short career? If you call getting swept in the Finals an accomplishment then you are vastly over-rating him yourself.

Would you please stop with the Cavs being such a horrible franchise... they are a decent team. Gooden (PF), Hughes (PG/SG), Gibson (PG), Varaejo (PF) would all start if they were on the Rockets... Ilgauskas is a top 5 Center in the East, Marshal and Snow are good bench/role players. They didn't get the #2 seed because they were soo "horrible".

Like I said earlier in this thread, if he was in the West, no one would be mentioning his name as a "top 3" player in the league. And people like A_3PO wouldn't be overrating him and riding his jock strap.

A_3PO · Jun 23, 2007

aka ace said:

You need to take a step back... what makes YOU think LeBron is good? What has he accomplished in his short career? If you call getting swept in the Finals an accomplishment then you are vastly over-rating him yourself.

Would you please stop with the Cavs being such a horrible franchise... they are a decent team. Gooden (PF), Hughes (PG/SG), Gibson (PG), Varaejo (PF) would all start if they were on the Rockets... Ilgauskas is a top 5 Center in the East, Marshal and Snow are good bench/role players. They didn't get the #2 seed because they were soo "horrible".

Like I said earlier in this thread, if he was in the West, no one would be mentioning his name as a "top 3" player in the league. And people like A_3PO wouldn't be overrating him and riding his jock strap.
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HAH, you are a complete joke. I guess Tracy, KG, AI and several other "good" players haven't accomplished anything because they've been in the NBA a LOT longer than LeBron and most haven't even made the Finals. LeBron makes it his 4th year but according to you that doesn't even mean he's "good". MJ didn't make the Finals until year 7 so he wasn't even "good" until then. By your definition, no player accomplishes anything until they win a championship if you hold everyone to the same standard you hold LeBron, which I doubt you do.

The Cavs other players? Your lack of knowledge of how Marshall and Hughes are big busts and of how limited Snow and Varejao are as players speaks for itself. Big Z is running on fumes. Everyone saw what they were all about in the Finals and I watched them all season. The Cavs were completely overmatched in talent and coaching in the Finals. Even if LeBron's shooting hadn't gone in the tank nothing would have changed.

They got the #2 seed because LeBron carried that team and because the East is a weak conference. The Spurs vs. Cavs was a microcosm of the West vs. East this season. Without LeBron, Coach Brown and that ragtag bunch would have won 10 games.

Air Langhi · Jun 23, 2007

aka ace said:

You need to take a step back... what makes YOU think LeBron is good? What has he accomplished in his short career? If you call getting swept in the Finals an accomplishment then you are vastly over-rating him yourself.

Would you please stop with the Cavs being such a horrible franchise... they are a decent team. Gooden (PF), Hughes (PG/SG), Gibson (PG), Varaejo (PF) would all start if they were on the Rockets... Ilgauskas is a top 5 Center in the East, Marshal and Snow are good bench/role players. They didn't get the #2 seed because they were soo "horrible".

Like I said earlier in this thread, if he was in the West, no one would be mentioning his name as a "top 3" player in the league. And people like A_3PO wouldn't be overrating him and riding his jock strap.
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Gooden would never play cause he is kind of slow and JVG wouldn't let him. Varaejo is garbage worse the Howard, and Gibson wouldn't play cause he was a rookie. Huges is super over rated. He has one good year and he isn't a vergy good shooter. The cavs are very bad team w/o lebron. They might be even worse than the rocket scrubs.

aka ace · Jun 23, 2007

A_3PO said:

HAH, you are a complete joke. I guess Tracy, KG, AI and several other "good" players haven't accomplished anything because they've been in the NBA a LOT longer than LeBron and most haven't even made the Finals. LeBron makes it his 4th year but according to you that doesn't even mean he's "good". MJ didn't make the Finals until year 7 so he wasn't even "good" until then. By your definition, no player accomplishes anything until they win a championship if you hold everyone to the same standard you hold LeBron, which I doubt you do.

The Cavs other players? Your lack of knowledge of how Marshall and Hughes are big busts and of how limited Snow and Varejao are as players speaks for itself. Big Z is running on fumes. Everyone saw what they were all about in the Finals and I watched them all season. The Cavs were completely overmatched in talent and coaching in the Finals. Even if LeBron's shooting hadn't gone in the tank nothing would have changed.

They got the #2 seed because LeBron carried that team and because the East is a weak conference. The Spurs vs. Cavs was a microcosm of the West vs. East this season. Without LeBron, Coach Brown and that ragtag bunch would have won 10 games.
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What don't you get? The East is weak as hell... LeBron beat 3 weak East teams to get to the finals... does that make him special all of a sudden? AI's team was worst then LeBron's but at least he didn't get shut down completely (and swept). If the Jazz were in the East this past year they would have been in the finals.. I wonder if you would have been saying stuff like Boozer is a top 3 PF and Deron is the 2nd best PG in the league? lol probably.

Hughes could start on the Rockets... saying hes a bust because he makes a ton of money, would not justify why he would not start on the Rocks, hes better then Rafer. Rockets are looking at Varaejo now (for starting PF) so I guess hes ok but maybe not by your standards. Marshall and Snow are ROLE players, but good ones IMO, better than John Lucas III and Steve Novak. Big Z is Big Z a former all-star 7'3 Center with good hands, and good shooting. He averaged 13 pts 10 rebs in the playoffs so I don't think hes that useless. We can go back and forth on this... saying the entire Cavs except LBJ are complete garbage (like the Hawks, Celtics, Bobcats) is ridiculous. You are part of the reason why LeBron is overrated to god like status.

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