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Taleban Funding?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ubiquitin, Jun 20, 2007.

  1. Ubiquitin

    Ubiquitin Member
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    Afghan Taleban 'targeting Kabul'
    Taleban are changing their focus to attack the Afghan capital Kabul, a spokesman for the group says.

    It's easy to understand how the Taleban could control the rural areas of Afghanistan, but it's an entirely different to imagine a Taleban being able to go after Kabul. Who the hell is providing the funds (and ultimately the arms and munitions) necessary to allow the Taleban to wage an offensive against the capital?
     
  2. TreeRollins

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    I would assume that alot of that funding is coming from the drug trade.
     
  3. dntrwl

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    Good thing they told everyone they are targetting Kabul, so we can get ready. Thanks Spokesman!
     
  4. thadeus

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    Taliban stole my piggy bank :(
     
  5. tigermission1

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    And you would be correct.

    Moreover, the Taliban can operate for 'cheap', and they have some experience in maintaining a persistent campaign against an overwhelmingly powerful force, and eventually outlasting it.
     
  6. insane man

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    waterboarding should teach you not to let that ever happen again.
     
  7. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Apparently you haven't been keeping up with the news. It is Iran.
     
  8. tigermission1

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    LOL! You sure it's not Saudi or Pakistan? What about global warming? I heard Iran is responsible for that as well (have you been to Tehran lately?).

    Somehow, everything will be traced back to the Iranians. Ironically, they were the ones who helped the coalition forces topple the Taliban regime.
     
  9. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    It could also be Pakistan or the House of Saud, but the weapons we have intercepted are coming out of Iran.
     
  10. thadeus

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    I'm not worried, because waterboarding is 'not really torture.'
     
  11. Mr. Clutch

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    Compared to what the Shiites do (removing eyes, using electric drills to drill holes in peoples knees and heads, dragging them behind cars) it really isn't.
     
  12. thadeus

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    Getting your head chopped off is worse than getting your toe chopped off, therefore getting your toe chopped off is good.
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    Never said anything about it being good.

    And they do worse than chop people's heads off. At least that would be relatively quick, rather than lasting hours or more. And waterboarding does not cause permanent physical injury like chopping off a toe.

    So your examples are not good.
     
  14. Mr. Clutch

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  15. thadeus

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    That's enough for me.
     
  16. Ottomaton

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    I didn't read the story linked, but I heard the associated story on the BBC World Service. Essentially the Taliban is doing it 'on the cheap', Iraq-style. They aren't going to wage a campaign with artillery, tanks and air support. Rather they are going to 'attack' with IED's and suicide bombers and wage an attrition/infiltration 'campaign'.

    The Taliban guy interviewed came straight out and said the Westerners care when their soldiers die and we don't at all, which was kind of disturbing to me. I don't think this requires any sort of increase in funding. Everybody already has an AK or an RPG, and the chemicals required to mix basic explosives aren't particularly expensive.

    If you want to get a sense of the type of thing that I'm talking about, the following is a BBC documentary following the Royal Marines in Afghanistan. Of course it is from the British perspective but it is not the flag-waving type of thing you might expect. It does a good job of showing the kind of hit, run, and disappear type of war the Taliban has been fighting. I'm sure this is the kind of thing that will happen in Kabul.

    Sorry for so many embeds. The documentary is in 4 parts. It is also relatively long - in excess of half an hour all together, but you can catch what I'm trying to say by just watching the first video.


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  17. thegary

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    Flies all green 'n buzzin' in his dungeon of despair
    Prisoners grumble and piss their clothes and scratch their matted hair
    A tiny light from a window hole a hundred yards away
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    'N weepin' greenish drops
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    The torture never stops

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    Fifty ugly soldiers, man, holdin' spears by the iron door
    Knives 'n spikes 'n guns 'n the likes of every tool of pain
    An' a sinister midget with a bucket an' a mop where the blood goes down the drain;

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    'N weepin' greenish drops
    In the room where the giant fire puffer works
    'N the torture never stops
    The torture never stops
    The torture
    The torture
    The torture never stops.

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    He eats the snouts 'n the trotters first
    The loin's 'n the groin's is soon dispersed
    His carvin' style is well rehearsed
    He stands and shouts
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    All men be cursed
    All men be cursed
    All men be cursed
    And disagree, well no-one durst
    He's the best of course of all the worst
    Some wrong been done, he done it first

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    (Well) Where the torture never stops
    The torture never stops
    The torture
    The torture
    The torture never stops.

    Flies all green 'n buzzin' in his dungeon of despair
    Who are all those people that he's locked away up there
    Are they crazy?,
    Are they sainted?
    Are they zeros someone painted?,
    It has never been explained since at first it was created
    But a dungeon like a sin
    Requires naught but lockin' in
    Of everything that's ever been
    Look at hers
    Look at him
    That's what's the deal we're dealing in
    That's what's the deal we're dealing in
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    That's what's the deal we're dealing in
     

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