I have no issue with moving head or JL3. JL3 is a nice quick passing point, but is too small too survive and doesn't have range. We already missed our chance to sell high on Head. His passing is atrocious, ball handling is only passable, and defense below average. When the shot's not happening, he's screwing us. Trading those two in small for big deals is just fine with me. I've got no problems with Cook sharing minutes at the 4, he's more than "another Novak." He can rebound decently, he's an okay passer, he can defend when he focus, he can get a block in limited minutes, and doesn't hurt at all that he can help space the floor with his shot. Is he the answer at the 4? No, but he'd be a fair complimentary player. Singleton's at least worth a look -I'm not sure what was keeping him on the bench in LA aside from depth at the F spots. I agree that I'd prefer to see VSpan under Adelman. If he ever gets comfortable on the court, I see John Starks in him. If we're moving him for a 2nd rounder and it's the #50 or worse, it's worthless. Evan
what, you mean rockets cant get a lottery pick for vspan? if he is moved i wouldnt be moving him to dallas for a late 2nd round pick...unless that is is true value. Cook for head. NO thanks. Although, cook only seems to play well when he plays the rockets, wonder if he would play well with them. but luther puts up better numbers and although bigs are valued higher...i'd rather play head at pf i love JL3, but he really doesnt have a place on this team anymore. Get something for him. i dont know much about singleton but a guy with size and athleticism on the bench...something rockts have little of
I do not like those small trades, they are meaningless. our pg position is average with james/alston, wing postion is top 5 with tmac/battier/snyder/wells(?), center postion is top 1 or 2, and we have a very good backup 4 with hayes, all we need is a good 4/5 type guy. use mle/sura/head/pick to get that player, jl, novak, and vspan should be used as fillers, not bring back garbages. do not repeat 04/05 season with mo/howard/spoon/baker/bowen playing pf, we really need is a good one.
Never give up, Will ... Singleton, Cook and that second rounder could still net us Artest or Lewis I have to admit -- I was probably overvaluing V-Span given some of the whispers about high demand for him. I think that is undervaluing Luther Head though. I thought he would have a little more value than that and was expecting him to go in a 2-for-1 or 3-for-1.
V-Span to Dallas for 2nd round pick. First, I don't think this can be done. Salaries don't match. Rockets would have to get somethign in return, right...maybe Devean George and a second rounder. Which you would of course do. If you could just do a straight up trade, I think for a #34 pick would be fair, but would hate trading him to Dallas, who originally drafted him in the first place (#50), and traded to us for our pick (#55) and $300k. I still think Billy can become an NBA player, but he needs to put in the work...which so far he doesn't seem willing to do. Luther for Cook has to be a joke. Maybe Luther is expendable on this team, but Cook does you no good. It's been mentioned already, but Novak gives you what Cook gives you, but is a better shooter. JLIII trade....who cares
In fairness, I suppose we should admit: Michael Dickerson + Bryce Drew + pick #30 + pick #41 + Kelvin Cato = (Dickerson + Drew + Othella Harrington) + Cuttino Mobley + Cato = Steve Francis + Mobley + Cato = Tracy McGrady.
You do not trade V-Span to Dallas for a 2nd round pick. Why do any deal that potentially makes a rival better. If you have to trade him.....look East. Personally, I think they should play hard ball and force him to honor his contract........and maybe that is what they are doing.....getting tired of his whining and basically showing that they are the ones in power. DD
ah, I see... wouldn't you think Dallas would hold out for more for their trade exception...those things can be fairly valuable, right?
Cook is a repeat of Novac..................... Varejao is a soft player who is a good actor not a good POWER Forward.. Hayes is an off the bench undersized defensive Power Forward............... NOT VERY GOOD DECISSIONS IN MY BOOK!!! BAD MOREY!!!
I call BS on this article: 1. Singleton is a restricted free agent, would have to be a sign and trade after July 15th, and only give him a very small raise or BYC rules will apply. Who's to say he would agree? 2. Cook for Head does not work - future salary of Cook's deal is averaged and BYC rules probably apply. 3. VSpan to Dallas only works if Dallas has a trade exception, or Dallas sends us a player back. 4. It's a Lopez article - automatically suspect.
no thanks to all 3 trades..we can do much better than cook and im afraid if we do send v=span to dllas and he flourishes..ah what a nightmare! Hopedully all false rumors
I am hoping that the Rockets are trying to send a not so subtle message to Billy about who is in control of his rights. I expect them to begin to play hard ball any day now....and start forcing him to honor his contract. You let a frustrated player have time to recover, and after a suitable amount of time, if they are still being a whiny b****, you bend them over your knee and show them who their daddy is....... V-Span is quickly reaching the spanking time !! As for the other rumors: JL3 - Sure why not Luther - Not a bad move, we are stocked at the 1/2 position, we need help at the 4 position....Cook fits the team well.....get r done. DD
It's only a small te ... something like 2.5 mil. Since you can't combine it with a player to trade, it really isn't that valuable. I'm fairly ambivalent about these trade proposals. Seems like roster shuffling that could easily come back and bite us in the ass, yet w/o any high reward to be had. Cept for JL3, he's pretty useless. I really wouldn't mind if they just cut him.
seriously Cook is terrible TERRIBLE he is just a comedy of errors waiting to happen. all the lakers games my roomates and i watched this past season was just to see what stupid thing brian cook was going to do, i dont know a single person here in la that likes him. heck my roomate bought me a pack of brian cook rookie cards off of ebay as a gag. that being said i dont want him a rocket esp for luther, but if it does go through i would buy his jersey for the laughs
That I can go along with but the reality is that I don't see them moving Auger because Avery loves him. And if Dallas has Auger, then why would they need to go out and get Spanoulis? These rumors are just plain silly. I live in Dallas and there's nothing anywhere about this so-called trade.
The Lucas trade is not to bad. even the V span one aint all that horrid considering how deep this draft is, but the head for coock trade is a travesty of justice. it's a raping of the highest magnatiude. just see the laker fans reaction to this rummor. there over the moon and rightly so. head has alot higher value then head. I suspect the rockets wanna ship Span to anyteam that will give them a mid range pick. it could be that the Kings are asking for alot of picks and say a rafer and snyder deal. if the kings move bibby, i could see them parting with Artest for a Rafer, Snyder, Big jake , pick #26 and #34.
I would have to consider trading V-Span for the 34th pick even though its with the rockets rival Dallas. You could potentially have Petteri Koponen, Gabe Pruit, Taurean Green, Glen Davis, Dominic McGuire, Kyrylo Fesenko, Jared Dudley or Arron Afflalo still on the board after the 33rd pick. I think the rockets could still get a little more for Head than Cook and the JL3 proposal wouldn't be that bad a deal for Singleton giving Rick Adelman another athletic 3-4 guy he is seeking.
Any deal for Artest is a bad deal. The guy is a complete nutcase and would be a ticking time bomb waiting to go off on the players, coaches or fans. Unlike others here, I have not quite reached the point of desperation that I want to have the fate of this team riding on whatever the little voices in his head are saying. Let's say for a moment, he magically transforms into a solid and dependable player with his head screwed on right - he STILL would not be enough to bridge the gap between the Rockets and the the rest of the West. Everyone here is laboring under the impression that a move like this will magically make them into contenders when the reality is that such a move is far more likely to blow up in their faces.
Perhaps just mentioning that the Rockets are willing to take Singleton for Lucas, or Cook for Head or a pick for VSpan is enough to get the teams interested in those players to say "we can do better than that"... Maybe it'll generate a few more phone calls.
