don't know about legally binding aspects but if i were wereh im, a part of me would probably want to return to greece, too. there are opportunities here...but he's already owning over there.
He could probably reach a deal of around 1.2-1.3 mill Euros per year....Tax-Free.. (The equivalent of say 2.7-2.9 mill dollars) +Free car+ Free House etc. Bonuses based on accomplishments as well....I.e. PAO won the Euroleague and the Greek Cup and if they win the 5th game of the championship finals tomorrow the y win the greek championship which would probably turn that figure to something approaching 4mill...
I think it's funny how almost everyone in the Rockets organisation has said very good things about him....Other teams think very highly of him (if we are to believe the interest that was mentioned)...All euroleague Teams would kill to have him ...FIBA named him the 7th best International player for 2006 (ahead of Tony Parker)...All fans of euroball think VERY highly of him....His stats in the previous years were more than respectable Yet 270 minutes and 78 shot attempts under JVG later he is considered an absolute scrub by most people on this board.... I don't know if hell be back at all...or if he will make it in the NBA but I could not be that confident making a claim that he won't...
This has been said here before, but NO ONE is guaranteed minutes in the NBA. A player on a max contract who's playing badly may still get minutes, simply because it's embarrassing for management not to play a guy who's making more than $10 million a season, but a player like Billy has to earn his minutes on the court and in practice. Last season, playing for Van Gundy, he simply didn't earn his minutes. He was terrible. I was as excited as anyone when we got him, and hope a new coach and a new system, plus having a season in the league under his belt, will give us something of what we hoped for, but he would have to come here and earn his time on the court, just like any other player. Based on his play last season, the guy should be less worried about getting time and more worried about getting tossed into a trade or cut. He simply sucked. And it's amazing how much this guy gets posted about here. (and here I am posting about him! )
Living in Greece>>>>>Living in the USA *if you have a good job Being a NBA star>>>>>Bing a Euroleague star If I am Span I gut it out and try to make it in the US as a quality NBA player so my legend grows even more. He will always have a chance to play on the Greek National team and by making it in the NBA it is another feather in the Euroleague hat plus it opens it up to more Greek players
i watched the euroleague games on nbatv over the summer last year. saw vasillis play and he was solid.
Um, no. If you had the talent to get signed by an NBA team, you would require they pay you lots of money (relative to us everyday joes). And then, if they didn't play you, or you had other options that were better, you'd take them. And then, if on top of that, you had the chance to still get some money from your previous team, you'd take that, too. I'm not trying to defend anyone. But we don't know what the conversations with V-Span were like before he came over. I do not find it hard to believe that he was implicitly promised more playing time, (not by JVG but someone else) and even though he certainly understood he needed to earn that playing time, to get as little as he did, he can decide to stay in Greece if wants without being called eurotrash. Rafer is called trash by everyone here because bya lmost all accounts he is one of the worst starting PG's in the NBA, and it is a pretty critical position in today's NBA. Nobody here has called him ameritrash, though...
Yes I'm sure a player who is generally only playing minutes here and there, is on the court all the time with another PG (JL3) and is asked to do the one thing he currently does not have consistently in his game all the time is terrible. I'm not saying he is a savior or a future starting PG, I'm just saying we don't know what type of player he is or will be. We have not seen him play enough in games. Even veteran players changing teams take weeks to adjust to the new team and their teammates tendencies during games, especially if your a passing PG who may not know where players move to. It can't all be done in practice. Saying we know what he will become right now is short-sighted, whether you think he will be a great or a flake. I hope he comes back, and gets a chance. I would take giving him some real playing time over losing a couple regular season games next year.
if he really wants to quit the league after one loasy season then he is a mental midget to begin with and should not be on the roster. i say good riddence.
Oh? Will he free to play in Greece? Will the Rox retain his rights? What happens to him re: cap? There are int'l basketball ententes, and V-Span cannot just come and go. But there are interesting questions IMO.
The amount that you mentioned is probably right, but it's not tax free, it's just an income after taxes. Financially he'll be better off in Spain/Italy/Russia/Greece compared to what he makes today in the nba, but the challenge is much bigger here. IMO he wants to stay in Greece, it's not just the playing time, but other factors such as the distance from home, success of his former team and the lifestyle in Greece.
Words really can't describe how sick I am of hearing about this kid and the constant soap opera that surrounds him with all of his selfish, inappopriate and naive comments. Seriously, he was arguably more of a distraction this year than fat **** Bonzi.
If it hasn't been pointed out already this "news" about Vspan that ESPN Insider has is taken from a recent Richard Justice Blog (today?). So take that for what it is worth.
Agreed. Lots of players have bad seasons, and if one is enough to drive you out of the league, then it wasn't for you in the first place. I won't say good riddance, because I think he's an NBA talent, but I certainly wouldn't cry over spilled milk.
Vspan may have been hyped to no ends on the board, but in no way was he anywhere close to the distraction bonzi was.
Don't forget about this as we were gearing up for the playoffs....... http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=126820&highlight=SPAN Or the infamous "I was McGrady back home" sob fest..... http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=123568&highlight=Spanoulis Or how he was "deceived" by the Rockets..... http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=123455&highlight=Spanoulis Or his other countless blog entries crying about his role and playing time. V-Span did his damage through pouting to the media. To me, that is arguably just as bad and annoying as Bonzi's deplorable display professionalism he showed this year. At least with Bonzi either injured, in the dog house or handcuffed to a booth at the local Waffle House we didn't have to hear about him crying to the media every single week. ....and let's not forget that Bonzi is the one guy between those two that has actually proven that he can play on this level.
Thank you. I don't understand people here who spend hours debating the minutiae of player X and people still don't give a damn about a perceived asset. I guess we have so many... To lose Billy for nothing is just bad management, and he has zero trade value if he wants to go back home. I do still believe V-Span was the nexus point of disagreement between JVG and management. And the JVG acolytes still can't deal with the result.
Carlos Arroyo. Vspan is on Carlos Arroyo's level. That's right, folks. We're worrying about Carlos freakin' Arroyo wanting to leave the NBA. Splash! People watch a couple of Euroleague games and think he's the next Tony Parker. They point to one WC game against USA and ignore how he stunk it up in every other game in the tourney. I don't hate Vspan, he's an NBA caliber player. I just hate the amount of love he gets on this board when he's done nothing in his limited time on the court. That is where he's supposed to earn the love, right? On the court?
If I were Span and I wanted to play for Adelman and the Rockets next year, I'd be crazy to make a commitment to return before the draft when most trades are made. I can't think of any good reason for him to personally do so before the draft. As usual, there's a lot of hype about nada.
stunk it up? As far as the game vs the US he not only had a good game he owned Chris Paul and made him his biatch
