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Amare Stoudemire for Garnett?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by doublebogey, Jun 18, 2007.

  1. Tom Bombadillo

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    How can you say KG doesnt play with heart. I would go as far to say he is by far the most passionate player in the game. I have seen all the so called superstars in the NBA play live and I have never seen someone more intense and passionate about the game than KG. Its beyond unbelivable that someone could say that. The guy practically leads the league in rebounds every year.
     
  2. DreamRoxCoogFan

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    nooooo- stop the trade! kg with phoenix? thatll be ridiculous... i cant handle that reality... kg+nash=too much awesomeness. it would mark the first time id ever consider the suns true contenders (which i never have and still currently do not)
     
  3. Mehdi

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    KG is no doubt a better player than Amare...you must be crazy to think KG is overrated...the only reason amare is midly good is bcuz of the system and because of steve nash..without nash he would be another player avg maybe 12 points and 9 rbs a game..good but not GREAT....go for KG and minny should be ok if they get barbosa included
     
  4. Mehdi

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    i agree ...as a rockets fan i would hate to see this happen...i rather KG go to new york or something
     
  5. xiki

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    KG's only 'shortcoming' is he is not MeMeMe. If he did a Kobe '06-'07 then Minny would have been in the playoffs IMHO.

    BTW - what becomes Phx' shave the salary strategy?

    Amare is special. But what would he be like with McHale's supporting class?

    Al Jefferson is good, but the backbone of a KG deal? Fuhgeddaboutit, unless, of course, you are the greatest (sic) GM, as K-Mc was identified. Pierce and KG become a beast of the East.
     
  6. A_3PO

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    KG for Amare+etc could work for both teams, especially the T-Wolves. If injuries don't become an issue, we haven't seen what Amare can be. Next season is when he was expected to be back in full form. He could have a breakout year. I know lot's of people here dislike Amare but don't forget he was never 100% last season.
     
  7. Mr. Clutch

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    Amare is SEVEN years younger. No way I do that trade.

    Unless I think KG is so much better that pairing him with Nash all but guarantees a championship.
     
  8. BigM

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    wow garnett plays with no heart or i guess you meant little heart? that's one of the most ludicrous things i've read on here.

    also i don't know how people gauge these things. what does heart mean anyway? is it passion and enthusiasm, because garnett has that in spades.

    also phoenix should push hard for this, that suns team is only as good as nash is and he's gonna run out of steam within 2-3 years. garnetts gonna be significantly better than amare for atleast that long.

    so in other words i certainly hope phoenix doesn't do this for the west's sake.
     
  9. tsunami

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    No way. Amare is 7 years younger than KG. Even if Nash & Marion retire, Amare can still be the cornerstone of SUNS.
     
  10. doublebogey

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    Steve Nash is the franchise player of the Suns now and for the next 2 years. Stoudemire is Robin to Nash's Batman.

    To keep Stoudemire or not, u need to review your tape of the Suns vs Spurs series. It shows you how disinterest, how lost, and how inept Stoudemire sometime was in defense. And Stoudemire was not even guarding Tim Duncan. Defense is a player's instinct, effort and experience. And Stoudemire just doesnt show enough of those in defense yet.

    And Nash wont last forever. So, it's basically a judgement call for the Suns. Do the Suns rather sacrifice their future to get a much bigger chance to bring home a championship in a 2-3 years window? Is KG enough to push the Suns over the top?And nothing is guarantee. To myself, I honestly think the Suns without Nash will only be just another good team. So, I think the Suns should do the trade if it's available and put their chips down now. Take Pat Riley's strategy for trading Shaq, "win now" if u can even u have to pay much more.
     
  11. lalala902102001

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    If I were Steve Kerr, this would be a tough call.

    KG is certainly a better overall player than Amare and could be the missing piece to put the Suns over the top. With Nash's age, their window is closing fast. Acquiring KG would give them a great chance to win a championship trophy or two for the next couple of years.

    On the other hand, Amare is 7 years younger than Garnett. That is one generation in basketball term. KG may have three to four good years left, but Amare has a decade of playing at a high level and he still has a lot of room to improve. From a team building standpoint, Stoudemire is more valuable than Garnett.
     
  12. badguyian

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    eh,KG's great,BUtttt he's getting old~~~~~~~~~How old is he now ?
     
  13. cheshire

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    Sort of like win now or stick with the current core.

    I must say the Suns have done well after losing two key contributors in Johnson and Richardson 2 or 3 years ago (?) and still maintain a quality regular season team.

    Is Phoenix desperate to get KG? I don't think so plus KG has a lot of milleage under the bonnet which is a concern.

    It would make the new season more exciting though...
     
  14. tiger0330

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    Steve Kerr and Kevin McHale should do this trade. Kerr puts his stamp on the Suns with a blockbuster trade that arguably makes them a better team than the Spurs.

    Kevin McHale trades for a similar impact player who is younger and who the Wolves can build around. This is a trade that I would make if I were both GMs.
     
  15. MONON

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    If this trade does go down, who plays center for the Suns?? KG is a 3,4 or 5 in that order. Do they want to play 82 games with Kurt Thomas at center? Does KG want to play the minutes required in the Suns 7 man rotation?

    With KG, the Suns are the best team in the regular season NBA. However they still aren't physical enough to get to the NBA Finals.
     
  16. Launch Pad

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    It's seems to me a question of shooting for the title now or planning for the future.

    I'd say a Nash/Garnett combo would make Phoenix legitimate contenders, so I'd do that trade. If I thought that the combo wouldn't make them contenders, I wouldn't mortgage the future by trading away a young star.
     
  17. HotRocket

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    Garnett is one of the best overall players in the league. He is Hakeem minus the stellar shot blocking... and the rings. The Suns would win 2-3 championships with a Nash-Marion-Garnett trio. Each player feeds off their surroundings, and it's not hard to imagine both Nash and Garnett averaging over 10 assists in that kind of atmosphere.

    Amare, I think, is really feeding off of Nash right now. He is an all-star without Nash, but not a superstar. And it will come even clearer as Nash leaves, and they are left with a guy who puts up nice numbers, but not for a max contract.

    Garnett just entered his prime, and Minni is sucking the life out of every player that joins them. The Suns and Wolves have to do it, for Garnett's sake.

    On the other hand, I want the Rockets to win some championships, so I hope Amare is traded for Alston.
     
  18. TheFreak

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    If Phoenix was an 'inch' from the title already, there's no reason to make this stupid trade. They should demand more from Minnesota if this were to go down, not the other way around.

    You just don't get much for stars on the downside of their careers. Barkley, Iverson, Drexler, Pippen, etc. Minnesota would be robbing Phoenix.
     
  19. gr8-1

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    Yep, that's why Cleveland would never give Lebron for Kobe.
     
  20. steddinotayto

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    with how Nash's back is right now,Phoenix should start looking for the "win now" option and that's going to be with Garnett. Say what you want about his big contract or his age or his lack of playoff post-1st round success, Garnett is better than Amare offensively and is world's better on the defensive end. You think D'Antoni had an issue with the lack of defense (to the point where the had to use Kurt Thomas), well they certainly wouldn't have that with Garnett. He isn't an All-World defender, but in terms of defensive PFs, he's up there. This also frees a lot of room for Marion to play.
     

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