Haven't really seen anybody bring this up... How are our chances of trading up in the draft? For instance, somewhere into the 15-20th pick? Would Luther be enough bait for a team just outside of lottery be willing to swap picks with us? First, I would say Luther is the better trade bait (compared to Snyder, obviously, because he's more proven and Snyder has better potential overall). Second, I'd really want to see us trade up, because in that range anything could happen. Some of the better prospects might fall, and we'd be sure to land a good player. I'm thinking Acie Law mainly. If not Acie, then Javaris Crittenton or Rodney Stuckey would all be good. Any thoughts? ACIE LAW RULES!
I'd give up both for a GOOD pick....Head is undersized and not talented at one particular thing.......and Snyder is not a great shooter for a team that relies so much on double teams, he really is not that great of a fit IMO. I'm for moving up for young talent if we can't trade for young established players.
I agree that the Rockets should try to move up at least 10 places in the draft to get a legit PG. Rockets should feel comfortable dangling just about any player on the roster outside of Yao, TMAC, and Battier depending on what the trading team wants to get an immediate impact PG who can step right in and start ahead or in place of Rafer. It would be nice to pick up a 2d rounder as well for Sura and/or Lior.
I don't see an immediate impact PG in this draft. Next years draft is going to be an awesome PG draft. I see the rockets trying to get a PG through free agency or a trade. If the rockets were able to move up in this draft, I personally would think that they would look for a big man. Because this is sickly deep draft, the rockets will still be able to get one hell of a player at #26.
man, great minds think alike. it's like you're my twin. if you search through my posts, i reckon i must have at least 7-8 saying: Trade Up #26 + Head for Acie Law i couldn't agree with you more. it might take more than just Head and #26, in which case I'd be more than happy to throw in a Future 2nd Rounder.
NBA trades don't happen unless you have alot to offer. Like 3 1st rounders for a #5 pick. It's much harder than football since there's only 2 rounds and anyone outside the lotto doesn't have good odds off being much of a player or even lasting in the league. Even mid to late 1st rounders aren't close to a guarantee. Not to mention teams don't care much for 2nd rounders. Teams are just hoping to find a diamond in the rough. I don't think another team would trade Acie Law for Head and our late 1st. How would they benefit? Basically getting 2 bench players for Acie Law isn't gonna intrigue any GM out there.
If Acie Law IV trading up will be very intereting, cause i think he is the best PG in the draft actually.
Jarvais Crittendon appears to be the due at 6'5". They compare him to Steve Francis in his abilities. The drafts have him going at 14 - 26. I would trade Luther Head and #1 with Philly to move up. I think he is what is needed, plus his defense is outstanding
apparently Crittenton is high on Atlanta's board, and they are contemplating taking him ahead of Acie Law at pick #11. ...that would be one pick ahead of the Sixers
I thinki you're probably overstating the ability to land a good player in the 15-20 range. Not saying it can't happen. It does, and often. But just as often, if not more-so, those guys are equally likely to be out of the league in a few years. Hit and miss. Reece Gaines or David West. Just go to NBAdraft.net and check out past drafts. That, combined with the Rockets clear history of sucking when drafting particularly in that range, and even though you might think Acie Law is the greatest thing since sliced bread, who knows.... Plus, with Luther in particular, he's shown a clear ability to get better. Last offseason he was told to work on his shot. He went from a 36% 3 point shooter to a 44% 3 point shooter. I think a lot of people are down on him because of his playoff performance - rightfully so, but I think he'll get better. He strikes me as the type of player who may not be clutch by birth, but gets better as he gets more experience. If he puts as much empahsis this offseason into becoming a better ballhandler and dribble penetration guy as he did last offseason into shooting, I can only see Luther getting better. If someone would take Snyder + 26th pick to move up into the late teens, then YES, of course I'd do that.
No, let's keep Snyder and insert Luther. Luther has more "value" because of his 3-point shooting, but Snyder has more long-term potential.
I agree. Snyder is a terrific athlete who can do a little bit of everything (though he needs improvement). Luther is a virtually one-dimensional player who can't pass or handle. He's very catch-and-shoot, and that fits a lot better on a JVG team than it will on an Adelman team.
based on what exactly....? He's shown considerably less than Luther over the course of the 2's careers, and hasn't really shown that he has the ability to get any better. I'm all for the Snyder should do better under Adelman, but 3 teams in 3 years with the same results probably means it isn't likely... Everyone knows Snyder's problem...he can't shoot. If he was really really good at other areas of the game, he'd be able to overcome that. Unfortunately he isn't. He is a good, strong finisher, but those are seemingly a dime a dozen in today's NBA, and Snyder doesn't really do it that much better than any other average to above average finisher. And considering he can't create for himself, that attribute becoems even less important. Again, Snyder need sto improve his shot. He's on his 3rd offseason now. He's learned how to become more selective, but not how to shoot any better. How do you compute: Snyder > Head ....???
Peja Stojakovic was very catch and shoot, too. Again, I think Snyder should do better under RAdelman than under JVG, but you can't make him better than he is. We'll see a better offense, but we're not going to start shooting 100 layups a game here. A good portion of RAdelman's offenses also consist of strong outside shooting. Luther's been a consistent bench player. Snyder's never gotten more than 20 mpg. I'll trust the 3 previous coaches involved if I have to choose between the 2. Of course, ideally we'd keep both and trade something useless with our pick to move up - like Badiane, so we could see what actually happens....but sicne that is a pipe-dream, if you had to trade one of the 2, I don't see how you can legitimately argue you'd rather have Snyder than Luther Head...
Mostly 6-6 over 6-1. IMO Snyder never had a coach that structured an offense to talent. He has always been a plug-in and therefore hasn't been worth a plug. I think Adelman will design an offense to get the most from his players, including Snyder. As an aside, I was very disappointed we got Snyder instead of J.R. Smith from the Hornets when both were available.
Luther's listed at 6'3 and only 7 pounds less than Snyder, but I agree with you on the height issue. Luther's biggest problem, to me, isn't the fact that he isn't a great ballhandler, but that he's undersized for a SG. That said, Snyder still hasn't been able to get consistent playing time in his career yet whereas Luther has. Luther's just a better offensive player than Snyder right now.
One note about Luther Head's 3 point shooting ability people forgot or didn't notice. I'm not trying to bash the guy either. Most of the time he was so wide open standing behind the line he would be tying his shoes. Most average back court players would hit the same shot and would be expected too. The defenses would collapse on Yao freeing him up so he would kick it back out, or it could of been a similar situation from T-Mac. Teams would always try to make us beat them from the outside rather than the inside. I don't personally recall instances of Luther breaking down his defender and then hitting 3's. Or hitting fade aways or even having a hand in his face when he hit the majority of those 3's. If we try and trade him, this will be noticed by the people watching tape of him. Just saying, he might/will not be nearly as great a 3 point shooter on another team as with us. Unless they happen to have a big man in the middle that causes the same effect. Not to many like Yao out there.
What you are saying is true of every player, except the super super great. Like Kobe. Sure, T-Mac may get hot every once in a while with a hand in his face, but he's not the best 3 point shooter - open or covered. Every team has players who create for others. One could easily argue that a lot of other teams have better creators than Houston...part of the reason they have better offenses. Luther was a great 3 point shooter in the regular season last year. No ifs, ands or buts.
