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Battier for Lewis

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ooliverb1, Jun 2, 2007.

  1. RocketsFan11

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    I could easily see the Rockets trading Battier this offseason. He was a player JVG wanted. JVG is gone, and Battier is not an "up tempo" player or a good scorer.
     
  2. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    I agree. I always stress defense but its balance we need. But if we start bringing in players like Lewis at the expense of Battier or Hayes I feel we might be tipping the scales too far towards offense.

    We do have McGrady and Yao after all (50ppg), we just need a coach who can utilize the role players and bench rather than trade for players to fit his scheme which is what Van Gundy did by bringing in Spoon, Ward, Oakley, etc...

    Like you said we need a system to fit our players not vice versa. A Lewis 4 Battier deal would be intriguing no doubt, but the Wilcox 4 Battier ideas are scaring me.
     
  3. geeimsobored

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    But Adelman won't be running an "up-tempo" offense either. Granted it'll be quicker than JVG's but its not like they were running out of the building in Sacramento either. (at least not after the Mike Bibby trade)

    Adelman's offense focuses on execution and will probably end up looking a lot like Utah's offense since I doubt he'll bring the princeton offense he ran in Sacramento here because we just don't have the personnel for that. But you can score a lot and not have to run like crazy. The Rockets team two years ago proved that during the 2nd half of the year.

    And if Battier is traded for Wilcox, we better get more than just wilcox. Because all that does is trade one hole for another. We fix the PF spot but now we're left without a shooting guard (assuming T-Mac moves back to the 3)
     
  4. TMac#1

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    Anybody who wouldn't trade Battier for Rashard Lewis, is high. This guy is an all-star, young, 20 pt scorer and athletic. Battier is a decent defender who shoots corner 3s OK, the thing he does best is take charges. Lewis would be a MAJOR upgrade over Shane.

    I would trade Shane for Wilcox also. He is avery good fit at PF, good size, athletic, good rebounder, finisher and can hit midrange j's.

    Sura for Sarunas,I would do that too. Giving up nothing to get a player that was pretty highly regarded when he came to the Pacers.

    Juwan for Mike James - absolutely, Juwan has nothing left, if we could get MJ for him, do it. MJ didn't have a good season, but lets not forget the yr he had in TOR, and how huge he was in 04-05 and in the playoffs.


    I'd doubt if more than one of these trades actually went down, if any, if they did Morey $hould be proclaimed a b-ball god.

    C - Yao/Wilcox
    PF - Wilcox/ Bonzi
    SF - Lewis/ Bonzi
    SG - T-Mac/ Lewis/ Bonzi
    PG - James/ Sarunas

    That is one loaded ass team. :eek:
     
  5. thacabbage

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    It's not mutually exclusive. The article sounds suspicious, but yes, the Chronicle IS that bad.
     
  6. pasox2

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    Trade Tmac for Lewis and Wilcox.

    Problem solved.

    Seattle could really like that. We should too. We get a 4 and a 3 and lose no scoring, gain efficiency.


    Yao/Jake
    Wilcox/Hayes
    Lewis/Battier
    Wells/Snyder
    James/Alston/Vpsan

    Personally, I think Lewis is a better fit with Yao than Tmac, at the 3. Lewis takes his shots off the pass, Tmac controls the ball. We retain Battier for defensive rotations. btw, Lewis is not a 4, ever.

    I would also try to lure SF3 if he's cut, later. It may take the whole offseason before the Knicks do that, though.

    I also try to get rid of Alston. I am trading him for draft picks. Even future draft picks.

    I'd keep this year's draft pick and try to pick up talent - like Morris Almond, or maybe take a flyer on Glen Davis. We need to develop a surprise.

    Now for a real gamble, I will trade Battier for Ron Artest.

    That would make (best case)

    Yao/Jake
    Wilcox/Hayes
    Lewis/Artest
    Artest/Wells
    SF3/James/Vspan

    ;)

    Possible. That team...would be the media darling. Extra media gets you extra wins, and a ticket to the semi finals.
     
  7. fnn2097

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    I really really like Battier. I hope the rockets can hang on to him. He does all the intangibles and all the dirty work for the rockets. Without him, i don't think if we would win 52 games this year. On the contrary, you look at lewis, who is a proven scorer in this league, can give the rockets that "3rd scorer" they need. I just secretly wish that we can get lewis without expensing battier.
     
  8. WhoMikeJames

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    Why are people complaining??? Its Rashard Lewis for Battier, thats a steal IMO. :eek:
     
  9. tinman

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    why would they want tmac when they are going to draft durant?

    tmac, durant, and ray allen??

    not logical sir.
     
  10. tinman

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    let's not do a Texan and forget that Rashard is from Houston.

    The Texans secretly drugged CD and Rudy that year we forgot to draft him.
     
  11. NewYorker

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    I would do the deal in a heart beat. It wouldn't make us a contender though. It won't plug the problem at the 4. It won't solve the issue at the 1.

    Still, it would be a brilliant trade and a step in the right direction. Lewis can play the 3 and move t-mac to the two full time
     
  12. yaominn

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    james/alston/vspan under coach a would be ok for pg position
    we can use mle to get some1 like dice at 4

    james/tmac/lewis/dice/yao bench alston/vspan/head/snyder/hayes/jake i would say much better than last year
     
  13. hooroo

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    Feigen 11th blog reply down, give or take.
    http://blogs.chron.com/nba/2007/06/a_terrible_loss.html
     
  14. roflmcwaffles

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    LOL YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR MIND!

    Shard is 10x better player than Stoyak and Adelman turned Stoyak into a HUGE player on that Kings team. God Adelman w/ Tmac and Yao instead of Webber/Divac and then give him SOMETHING of a PG, with Shard instead of Stoyak thats a championship team. Shard will shoot 50% from 3 with all the open looks he will get.

    Omg!! GREAT TRADE!!
     
  15. WhoMikeJames

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    Is Lewis injury prone?
     
  16. PeteTheCheat

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    that's a scary thought defensively...but one hell of a mismatch on the offensive end.

    as much of a bad rap as lewis gets defensively though, I've seen him lock it down on T-Mac a few times.
     
  17. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Not really. He missed a lot of this year but he had no reason to get on the floor.
     
  18. wolfsheep

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    I can't believe people are so interested in this deal. Every team need a defender. Even Suns has Bell and Marion. Who would be our D guy if battier is gone?
    Adelman's offense style still need a great defender like Christie.
    I would only accept this if we can get a PG with great D. Otherwise this doesn't make any sense. Are they trying to trade Tmac soon? Why should we have two scorers at same position?
     
  19. hooroo

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    Battier's defense is overrated. Sign Udoka to replace him and you pretty much get the same except without the better 3pt shooting.
     
  20. dntrwl

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    your screen name makes me want waffles, just thought I'd put that out in the air, does it make anyone else want waffles?
     

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