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Battier for Lewis

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ooliverb1, Jun 2, 2007.

  1. doublebogey

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    Lewis to Houston - Unlikely to happen only if Lewis asks for a trade to Houston and Sonics want to get something back.

    Juwan for Mike James - Well, that will satisfy some Mike James fans here. James can be a good scorer off bench. Gets more fire and heart than Juwan. Bobby Jackson v.2?

    Sarunas Jasikevicius - No please. Sarunas can shoot, can pass, but gets no speed and cant defend. He gives up as much as he contributes. Mike Bibby Super Lite. But dont know about his leadership, his poise, and his crunch time effectiveness.
     
  2. Rocketeer

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    Battier for Lewis?? This is a no brainer. Lewis is a proven all-star, a 6-10 guy that can step ou to the 3 pt line and score with regularity. As a fellow Elsik Alumn, I would do that in a heart-beat.
     
  3. Storm Surge

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    Yao-McGrady-Lewis is a intimidating trio.

    I'd do it
     
  4. Luffy1

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    I love battier, but for all his intangibles, he hasn't shown any tangibles on offense. All he does is shoot corner 3s and he's streaky. Rockets didn't lose in the playoffs cause of defense. We lost cause of offense and battier was a main contributer of our offensive ineptness. Who cares what boozer was doing. It's not like the jazz were putting up 100+ each night. If rockets had any sort of decent offense, we would have won the series. Defense wins championships is all bunk, if you have no offense. We held the jazz to 81 points one game and teams win that game 9/10 times, but we only scored 67 damn points that game.
     
  5. Sooner423

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    Where is this guy getting all of this information? The News Tribune? That just sounds fake. Anyway, if this stuff is true, I'm pretty happy with it.

    Battier and the #26 for Lewis could be great. I think that Rashard could possibly play that 3/4 role that Adelman has spoken of. We could really spread the floor with Rashard at the 4. The only thing I don't like about it is giving up that pick. How long can we continue to trade our draft picks? In about 5 years, this Yao/T-Mac era will be close to over. Are we just going to have a bunch of 34 year old guys and scrubs when that time comes? I hope not.

    Juwan for Mike James would be a dream come true. To those who speak of a glut at the guard positions, I ask, "What glut?" We would have Mike James and Rafer Alston at the point. Beyond that we have a second rounder who played like complete garbage last year and an undrafted guy who didn't play much better. I think one of those guys could really step it up and be a solid 3rd string point guard. If they step it up and surpass Rafer in the lineup, that would be great. Losing Juwan is nothing but a blessing. The guy is done. He played beyond himself a few times this season, but does anybody thing he can continue to do that? I don't. Though he was solid on several occasions, there were just as many occasions where he flat out sucked. Mike would give us a near perfect point for this group. At the point, we need someone someone who can penetrate and shoot the trey. Mike can do that. Some say he is a little selfish and he may be, but we saw how effective he can be with Yao and Mac 2 years ago in the playoffs against Dallas. They flat out feared him. I believe one coach or player came out and said they were trying to stop Mike rather than Yao and T-Mac. He may not be quite at that level anymore, but a percentage of that former self would be a great improvement over what we have now.

    Sura's expiring for Jasikevicius would be okay. I was hoping we could get a little more out of it. Sarunas is just rotting on the pine over there. He can shoot, but he hasn't shot that well since he entered the NBA. I also see him as an undersized, unathletic 2 rather than a one, which is exactly what we don't need. An athletic 2 with some size that can shoot the trey would be ideal, but we don't have a lot of assets to work with. I would love Barnes with the MLE.
     
  6. Rockets#1fan

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    Why don't we just sign lewis when he is a free agent instead of trading for him? Is it because of the salaries?
     
  7. geeimsobored

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    We can only sign him to the MLE because we're over the cap which is far lower than his market value.

    The only way we get Lewis is through a sign and trade.
     
  8. wreck

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    I agree, come on the money is there. Besides in the nba every year there is a raise

    Does anybody know how much the raise is?

    For example 11 mil the first 12.5 the second and 14 the last year.

    That should be enough money.
     
  9. geeimsobored

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    Most of that has to do with the fact that Van Gundy's ISO sets for Yao and T-Mac basically relegated Battier to the corner.

    I think he'd be a great fit for Adelman's offense but if we can get Reshard Lewis for him, then sign me up.

    I still don't trust this article though.
     
  10. blackistan

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    As much as I like battier you have to think about what rashard brings to the table. He will be that 3rd scorer we so desperately need on this team. Tmac will not have to shoulder all the pressure at the end of games becuase he could have someone reliable to pass to. Although we wont have that defensive stopper we will have a very reliable scorer. I just wish there was another way to get rashard without having to give up battier.
     
  11. xomox

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    Bill Ingram is writing the story as if it was his own on that one website that shall remain unnamed. what a POS! :mad:
     
  12. ind0fo0

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    Starting 5:
    yao
    hayes
    lewis
    tmac
    james

    Bench:
    bonzi
    vspan
    snyder

    Trade Head, First Rounder, Novak for future picks or varejao or something :D
     
  13. thacabbage

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    The article sounds fishy. For a guy that rarely showed up to practice for a team he coached, I find it hard to believe that Clyde is having breakfast daily with Rashard on behalf of the Rockets...

    Still, if true, Battier for Rashard is a no-brainer. Battier, while I love him, is the most overrated player in the game today. A trio of Yao-McGrady-Lewis atleast gets you in the discussion to sit at the big table. Before that, you're just pretending.
     
  14. RedRowdy111

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    Clyde's been doing the breakfast, i've been covering lunch. I'll be sure to send my expense receipts to clutch so you guys can pay me back for all those hot wings and vitiamin water. LOL.
     
  15. RedRowdy111

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    ^^^^^^^^^^

    Clyde's been doing the breakfast, i've been covering lunch. I'll be sure to send my expense receipts to clutch so you guys can pay me back for all those hot wings and vitiamin water. LOL.
     
  16. ind0fo0

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    clutch, can you make a potential rocket page for rashard lewis? i reallllly want to see him in a rockets uniform
     
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    You know what they say about decent players on bad teams...teams that go 31-51 do have a magnifying effect on players. Especially when Ray-Ray goes down, and Lewis gets the ball like everytime.

    Which isin't to say that I don't want to trade Battier for Lewis...but the Rockets should try fishing around for a better deal. Battier is an unique player, one any championship-caliber team needs. After all, we can't have Mac always guarding Kobe (or god forbid, if the rumors are true, a 80 year old Doug Christie).

    Oh, and hell no to Battier for Wilcox.

    That said, I fully support any measure that gets Juwan out and anybody we can use in.

    As for Sura and the Jasi guy, I don't see why not.
     
  18. The_Yoyo

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    well usually rumors that prop up this early in the "offseason" dont usually amount up to much at all. Especially ones that spell out the potential pieces involved because other teams will step in to make better offers (see damon stoudamire trade), but also its going to be hard with rashard being a FA. its quite clear at least to me that he will not be in seattle anymore. I think he would love to play in houston, but being passed up on 3 times when promised by the team several years ago probably hurt him a lot and any dream of a player of his caliber taking substantially less money to play is gone out the window.

    i am not sure if a draft day trade can be involved where one of the parties involved does a S&T. unless there is an agreement in place for team B agrees to draft Team A's guy with the pick and then put the ink on the paper at the first available date. i cant recall of any trade on draft night where one player was being s&t for a pick +others. so i dont see that the pick being traded in this guys possible scenario.

    also its hard to say what seattle will do. Them getting the 2nd pick messes things up completely. before they were planning to move to OK and were trying to slice as much money off the books as possible. I would have thought then a S&T for rashard would be possible for expiring deals (i am not so sure if we have enough expiring contracts to do that deal anyway) now they are getting one of the two most heralded "cant miss" guys in quite a long time and will be selling tickets like it was the early 90s all over again. If they decide to stay then maybe a S&T w/ Rashard with other players is logical, but i dont think the rockets could make an offer that would make seattle happy. battier is probably the most attractive piece to trade but he plays the same position as likely selection durant. things play out a bit different if for some reason Oden is available when they pick, but they maybe seattle re-signs rashard for themselves since they will need the offensive he brings until oden develops his post game a bit more.


    personally i do hope rashard ends up a rocket but its too early to speculate with names right now.


    ***i know its "that site" that is putting the rumor out but i am at least glad at least it seems that the rockets are trying to make some sort of moves...while any of these "deals" will fizzle they have to be substantiated on some sort of truth...you know where there is smoke there is fire type deals.
     
  19. agentkirb

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    Really? How is he overrated? If anything he is underrated because he's never gotten on the All NBA 1st team for defense, and I don't think he's even made the 2nd team either yet he's easily the best defensive player on probably the best defensive team in the league (one could argue the Spurs are better defensively I suppose). Solid shooter. He's no Tracy McGrady on offense, but no one is saying he is either. People just think of him as a decent outside shooter that can play good defense when IMO he's a nice version of Bruce Bowen.
     
  20. KAS13

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    They are obviously aggresively pursuing Rashard Lewis (which isn't news ot anyone anymore). However, the other rumors are just that. At this point, we still have to resign Hayes and Howard is the backup or starting PF however you look at it. If we deal for Lewis, that's leaves us with no #1 to pick up a pf or pg which we still need. We can't just trade Juwan with nothing in the works for another pf. What if Hayes bolts for some reason. Then you have no PF's and no depth. The deal for Sarunas for Sura's deal is much more likely. He's strictly a shooter and we can go after a pf another way. Or we can try to put together a package for another PF, resign Hayes, trade for James or hope Francis becomes available. Adelman has a whole different perspective. The Bonzi situation is still out there as well.
     

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