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And the lottery race is in full swing!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jan 11, 2000.

  1. Clutch

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    <font size="+1" face="arial">Lottery Race</font>

    <table width=350 cellspacing=0 border=0 cellpadding=2><tr bgcolor="#003366"><td><font face="verdana" size="1" color="#ffffff"></font></td><td><font face="verdana" size="1" color="#ffffff">W</font></td><td><font face="verdana" size="1" color="#ffffff">L</font></td><td><font face="verdana" size="1" color="#ffffff">PCT</font></td><td><font face="verdana" size="1" color="#ffffff">GB</font></td></tr><tr><td width=100 align=left><font size=2 face=arial>Chicago</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>5</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>26</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>.161</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>--</font></td></tr><tr><td width=100 align=left><font size=2 face=arial>Golden State</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>6</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>27</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>.182</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>1</font></td></tr><tr><td width=100 align=left><font size=2 face=arial>Vancouver</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>10</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>24</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>.294</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>3 ½</font></td></tr><tr><td width=100 align=left><font size=2 face=arial>Dallas</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>10</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>24</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>.294</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>3 ½</font></td></tr><tr><td width=100 align=left><font size=2 face=arial>Houston</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>10</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>23</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>.303</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>4</font></td></tr><tr><td width=100 align=left><font size=2 face=arial>LA Clippers</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>10</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>23</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>.303</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>4</font></td></tr><tr><td width=100 align=left><font size=2 face=arial>Washington</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>11</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>23</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>.324</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>4 ½</font></td></tr><tr><td width=100 align=left><font size=2 face=arial>Atlanta</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>12</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>21</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>.364</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>6</font></td></tr><tr><td width=100 align=left><font size=2 face=arial>New Jersey</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>14</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>20</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>.412</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>7 ½</font></td></tr><tr><td width=100 align=left><font size=2 face=arial>Boston</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>14</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>19</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>.424</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>8</font></td></tr><tr><td width=100 align=left><font size=2 face=arial>Cleveland</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>15</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>19</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>.441</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>8 ½</font></td></tr><tr><td width=100 align=left><font size=2 face=arial>Orlando</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>16</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>19</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>.457</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>9</font></td></tr><tr><td width=100 align=left><font size=2 face=arial>Denver</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>17</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>16</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>.515</font></td><td><font size=2 face=arial>11</font></td></tr></table><br clear="all">

    The Bulls have been the leaders all season, but are in a bit of a slump as they have won three straight. "We're confident we can turn this around and start losing again," said Elton Brand.

    The Grizz have now also won three straight -- wins in Miami, Toronto and Boston (impressive). Othella went off for a career-high 27 points, hit a staggering 11-14 from the field and grabbed 12 boards tonight in Boston. 'Thella!

    [*] Maloney goes off for 16 in his first game and then Mack goes off for 15 (5-12 from long range) -- including a huge (defender in his face), off-balance three-pointer with about 10+ seconds to go to force OT (where the Warriors eventually lost). So wild seeing Mack backpeddle up court after that shot with arms in the air celebrating and the Warriors fans screaming for him.

    [*] Bryce Drew is 4th in the league in three-point percentage at just under 45%. Not too bad.

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  2. Pole

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    "Games Back" column--you gotta love it.

    I don't give a rat's rear. I'd rather see the Rocket's win than lose, but I'd rather see them lose than not see them at all.

    If we're lottery bound, so be it--I'm still gonna enjoy the ride.
     
  3. Clutch

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    Pole -- I hear ya... more intended to be a gag, though I must admit I want a good pick. Funny too how 3 of the 4 teams behind (or ahead) of us have ex-Rockets on their teams that we let go this season. Dickerson & Othella (Grizzlies), Mack (Warriors) and Maloney (Bulls).

    Knowing Jerry Krause he'll deal Toni Kukoc ASAP for picks or a free agent that will free potential cap room this summer ... that's a guy I wouldn't put past tanking it.
     
  4. rocketsfan34

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    OMG!!!! Van got 10 wins!!!! Now we seriously have a realistic chance at getting 3 seed! Now the trick is to lose to dallas with the excuse that Francis is injured so they jump ahead of us in the standings. That way we can get 5 seed [​IMG]

    PS-Houston we have a problem...Hakeem is coming back.
     
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    i've got an idea to help our standings (a sure 2 seed) - bring DIT back!!! the rest of the team will be so bored out of their asses, they won't play defense.

    oops, we'll lose all of our young players also (francis, etc.)

    to the literalists - sarcasm (above, not below)

    tank tank tank............ tank-n ru-dy
    tank tank tank............ tank-n ru-dy

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  6. rocketsfan34

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    For those of you who don't think wins make a difference, check out what would happen if season ended today. (First 7 seeds, others don't usually make it into lottery unlike the lucky hornets)

    Bulls = 250 balls
    Warriors = 200 balls
    Mavericks = 157 balls *1
    Grizzlies = 120 balls
    Clippers = 89 balls *2
    Rockets = 64 balls

    Wizards = 37 balls

    *1 Mavericks win in tie-breaker against Grizzlies.

    *2 Clippers win tie-breaker with us

    NOW YOU TELL ME, HOW IMPORTANT ARE THE WINS AND TIE BREAKERS? OUR LOTTERY CHANCES SUCK AS OF NOW.



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  7. RocketsPimp

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    ha-ha-ha...

    I know you guys are just doing this for "fun", but its way too early(and ridiculous) to be talking about the draft, let alone lottery.

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  8. Achebe

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    rf34: remind me what the rules are. I thought that the lowest 14 got lottery balls. it seems like otherwise, teams would throw games at the end of the season; crucial games that would affect outcomes of playoff berths.
     
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    Just to fan the flames a little, Rodman might be able to energize Dallas. Orlando, I believe, has Golden State's pick so there's no reason for them to quit. Vancouver is 6-6 in last 12 games so they've turned it around. Washington is the team that "scares" me. They're coming apart completely.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Yes,

    But after tonight's inevitable loss to the Kings we will be in 3rd place.

    Glad to see you put this up clutch. I mentioned it earlier in a thread about the playoffs. We are actually closer to the worst record then the 8th seed.

    You know, this begs the question. If Rudy where really trying to win this year, then why did he not sign Sam Mack?

    DaDakota
     
  11. grummett

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    Game of the night for this thread: Dallas at Golden State.
     
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    Clutch,

    With Hakeem coming back we run a serious risk of falling way behind in this race, especially if he is looking as good as the Chronicle article says. This raises an interesting question on this board. How will the lottery devotees react if Dream starts to dominate and the Rocks start winning? Will he be in danger? Will those desiring to tank the season consult with Tonya Harding? After all, a healthy Dream could be a nightmare and ruin all the plans that have been made to get in a position to draft Kenyon Martin. ;-)
     
  13. DaDakota

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    JT,

    I always want my Rockets to win, damn the lottery, but if they can't then I want to get the nubmer 1 pick.

    [​IMG]

    DaDakota

    "No guarentees in the lottery"
     
  14. Will

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    JT -- Two words: David Robinson.
     
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    If Dream plays so well that we win enough games to pull us out of this hole and into the playoffs, I'll like our chances at an upset. So I'll definitely be rooting for Dream to crush the opposition, and be simultaneously happy to draft as high as possible.
     
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    Will -- Three words: Please God, No. :)
     
  17. JuanValdez

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    If Orlando has Golden State's pick, but it is lottery-protected, then they will not want to fall in the middle ground. For the pick, they'll play really bad if they can't play well.

    DaDakota, Rudy didn't sign Mack because he's not part of our long-term plans. Even if (big if) Mack could really help us win games, does playing guys who will be around in the future instead of signing a quick-fix constitute tanking?
     
  18. Will

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    Let's be practical about this. The increase in probability of getting a top-3 pick (our number of ping pong balls as a percentage of the whole) diminishes after we get to the 6th worst record, exactly where we are now. Going from 7th to 6th worst increases our probability by 73%. Going from 6th to 5th gets us only a 54% increase, and it's all downhill from there. Let's shoot for #6. It gives us a realistic shot at popping a ball into the top 3 without sacrificing too much of our development and self-respect. And anyway, I don't think we can out-tank Krause.


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    Valdez, I'm curious as to who you think, other than the obvious players like Francis, Cato and Rogers, is part of the Rockets long-term plans?

    Will, did you just use "self-respect" and "out-tank" in on breath?

    JT, you can keep your happy, little lottery thoughts safe. The Chronicle always goes on about how great Hakeem looks after an injury and as we've seen, its usually not what we expected. Personally, I'll believe it when I see it. I do think that having just Hakeem, rather than Dream and Big Sexy, on the low block will help this young team out alot. It kinda reminds me of the '94 team with more athleticism.

    One thing is certain, and I'm sorry to burst some of ya'lls bubbles, but we can't get any worse with Dream back in the lineup.

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  20. Will

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    And did you just use "Rockets" and "Pimp" in one breath?
     

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