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[Fox26 Sports] Houston Rockets Hire Adelman

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by HOUastrocketexan, May 21, 2007.

  1. getready

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    well said. lets just hope for the best at this point.
     
  2. blazer_ben

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    Upgrade for sure. were still gonna be a prodominantly halfcourt team, but were gonna be alot more fun to watch. i gotta feeling guys like hayes days are numberd here. Adelman likes He's PF's to be Skillfull and be able to knock down there primeter shots. By by hayes..
     
  3. Rocket River

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    That was excellent coming from a guy name Patience *grin*

    Rocket River
     
  4. rhester

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    Now get Adelman some players- here is a list of players that we really don't need-

    VSpan
    Novak
    John Lucas
    J Howard
    Chuck Hayes
    Rafer Alston
    Luther Head
    Kirk Snyder
    Deke
    Jake


    I can't believe this is supposed to be a list of players that we can challenge Dallas, Phoenix, SA and Detroit with - Ha Ha Ha

    Keep Yao, Tracy and Battier- the rest should be in D league

    And everyone who think VSpan really is TMac- please

    VSPan has potential- (but he isn't Barbosa, Harpring, Harris, or Ginobli- who all come off the bench)

    Head is a 6 ft. 1 in. 2 guard who is one dimensional
    Snyder can drive to the hoop on occassion has no mid range or 3 pt game and is good for some fouls on defense.

    Novak needs bulk and some time.... I could wait on him

    The rest can go away...


    We need to revamp this roster for Adelman. It killed Grumpy.
     
  5. Dallas Rocket

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    I supported hiring JVG early on, but his inflexibility and lack of creativity was exposed over his tenure. He tried to fit every part, no matter the shape, into the same square holes...pigheaded. The examples are legion.

    Sometimes you don't know how bad things are, or how good they could be, until a change is made. I think this is exactly how things will play out.

    D R
     
  6. Rocket_Nupe

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    Than you will need a two guard ding dong.
     
  7. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    You have to wonder how many of the fans that are so vehemetly behind Jeff Van Gone-dy are Red Rowdies.

    Free tickets buy a lot of loyalty to the man.

    ;)

    DD
     
  8. HillBoy

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    How can that be? You're not saying that we need better players are you? Because that's not what I've been reading here and elsewhere. Didn't you see where the bad drafts, the dumb player moves, the one-dimensional offense, the lack of development of the young basketball gods sitting on the bench, the missed jumpshots in the playoffs, the turnovers by Yao in the Utah series, the disappearance of Mr. "It's On Me" in the the same playoff series and the talent gap between the Rockets and the rest of the West was JVG's fault? That is all over now because we have hired Rick Adelman! We just got rid of the one thing that was holding this team back - the head coach. I can just smell the fear in San Antonio, Dallas, Phoenix, Los Angeles, Utah and the rest because simply by changing coaches, we just became the Sacramento Rockets - a true championship contending team. ;)
     
  9. DaDakota

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    I wanted JVG gone because of the talent gap. Some of us thought the way to address the gap was to develop some of the younger players to find out if they were going to help CLOSE said gap.

    But the gap is there for sure, and the Rockets need to address it by trades and FA signings as well as developing from within.....

    DD
     
  10. HillBoy

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    Well, if you really want to discuss facts here, the same things being said about JVG can also be said about Adelman particularly his personality (the word whiney keeps coming up). I'm with you in that this is really not that great a hire because what the Rockets & Les are saying with this move is that the blame for 10 years of not getting out of the 1st round lies with the head coach. They are also saying that they believed that there was a better head coach out there and by simply changing the head coach, this team is now a true contender.

    Adelman is at best, a lateral move - sort of a JVG with more of an offensive slant. The best name coach still out there was Larry Brown (after all, he does have the rings) but he'd probably want to have some control over personnel and Les & Morey can't afford to give that up because that's going to be their escape hatch should Adelman's teams come up short - "After all, we gave him the players, he just couldn't get the job done. We did our part.". I'm very concerned that the way this hiring was done - not conducting a more thorough search, not interviewing anyone else, not exercising due diligence - will come back to haunt this team in 2-3 years.
     
  11. Fuse

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    In terms of pure X and 0's... I think it is a lateral hire, but in terms of philosphical and motivational abilities, I think Adelman has JVG beat in that arena. Yao needs more freedom in his game, JVG was partly at fault for making his game so predictable. His in game adjustments were also as poor as I have seen.

    As good as JVG was, this team was in dire need of change, and I'm glad we made this move.
     
  12. Fuse

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    I think you may be understating Adelman's abilities. As for due diligence... I think upper management had already done their homework way before they even "officially" interviewed Adelman, hence the quick trigger for the firing and hiring. Who knows what may have gone on behind the scenes.
     
  13. HillBoy

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    But that talent gap was JVG's fault because he didn't - what's the word? - oh yes, DEVELOP the young talent sitting on the bench. Solution: fire JVG and bring in Rick Adelman. Problem solved, and the talent gap is magically wisked away. Now that's coaching! :)
     
  14. Chilly_Pete

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    Good point,

    It was like Adelman was Alexander's guy all along and they didn't even bother to look at all of the options out there. Les did the same thing with Morey, he just hired him out of the blue. I don't think Les knows what due dilligence is.
     
  15. HillBoy

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    Funny how a coach's abilities look better when he has a better mix of players to work with but I digress here. Fuse, there was no search, no nothing. Uncle Les met with Adelman while JVG was still officially the head coach and decided that "he's my boy". Les believes that a more uptempo offense that's pleasing to watch will draw more fans (read more $$$) into the TC. Funny, I was under the mistaken belief that winning would do that...
     
  16. Fuse

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    I do think that was part of the problem, irrespective of the fact that you took it as a joke.
     
  17. Fuse

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    All we know is about that fateful "meeting." What I was saying is that it was all really an act, and that the search had been completed even before the season even ended. Who knows what Les and Morey were doing during the year. As I said, there probably were a lot more that went behind the scenes than we were let on.
     
  18. Amel

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    what other options? comon guys! there is no better option, Adelman has the best record and fits the system we are looking for
     
  19. Chilly_Pete

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    You never know if there are better options if you don't even bother to look.

    Adelman might be the best option when it is all said and done, but you should at least explore all the possible options. You might find someone you like better.
     
  20. leroy

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    I completely agree with this and think that it's actually a positive. No one can doubt that JVG is a very very good basketball coach. It's just that his style is a bit more late 1980's & early 90's than it is in the present. Adelman can take what this team has learned defensively and incorporate a more up-tempo style. If he can get them closer to averaging 100 ppg, while keeping the opposition in the low 90's, we're competing with Dallas and SA for the top seed.
     

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