vecesy.....makes....sense..... the possibility of jeff wanting to come back next year only to realize that he doesn't really want to coach after the season begins is a scary thought. thank you les for making the right choice. jeff is a good coach but i'd rather have a great coach, and one who will be here for sure. besides did jeff really get strong armed or misshandled? he turned down extentions twice during the season. maybe he didn't ask for more time to make his decision but he definitely seemed unsure about what he wanted even though he might have maintained to les and DM that he wanted to be back. it's called leaving your options open. thanks but no thanks. you say you want to come back but you don't seem 100% into it. i'd rather have you not quit mid-season on us. i'd rather upgrade the coach to a championship type coach from a playoff type coach while i'm at it. good job les and DM. they did what was best for the team. jeff was trying to do what was best for him and that's fine.
Matter of interpretation. Bottomline is that Les and Jeff don't like each other and don't trust each other any more. One of them had to go and Les wasn't selling the team.
Yeah, Vescey actually makes some sense if his JVG-Knicks ending scenario is all true. But that in no way excuses the Rockets, and especially Alexander, for the way this was handled. If he really was worried about JVG pulling another "Knick quitting deja vu" scenario, then why not straight out let JVG go and move on to someone else. It would've been much better to tell the truth--Les didn't want to continue with a coaching style he disagreed with. In the end, what's wrong with that? In fact, Alexander would do himself and the Rockets a big PR favor if he came out, even after all this, and admitted that he chose to go with someone else and that he completely mishandled how the organization went about doing it.
i don't think the rockets org. did anything wrong. jeff said he was gonna have to think about returning after the season ended. he had already turned down 2 extension attempts. i think the team went beyond being fair by giving him as much time to decide as they did. to hell with jvg. he sucks anyway.
Vecsey owes JVG. Facts: - JVG turned down 2 extensions in mid-season. - JVG said he's unsure after Gm 7 loss. - Rick Adelman talked to JVG before accepting any interviews. - JVG told the Rockets, "...you owe it to yourself to find someone you agree with..." and he talked to Rick Adelman, but he denied he allowed the Rockets to look for a new coach. - When Rick Adelman let JVG know the Rockets were ready to talk dollar, then he cried foul and said he's ready to return. The Rockets mishandled it by not firing his behind earlier and wanting a good divorce. However, JVG is a hell of DRAMA KING.
I know, it scares the hell out of me to. I completely agree with Vescey on this. Van Gundy has already shown he'll quit in the middle of a season and he's showing signs of doing that right now. So the Rockets decided to go after a coach that wants to coach here.
I think I came to a conclusion, hehe JVG might be phony as ****! he might have been kissing ass this whole time just to make himself look better thats freakin disgusting
thats what I said right after he was fired.... it would make a bit more sense now, but its still out there as just she said he said
I agree with the timeline. A very sad, sad fact...the VGOF's will be revising the history for at least another season minimum.
""I think really what happened in that series is Andrei Kirilenko in the first two games really wasn't a factor [but] he became a larger and larger factor as the series wore on," said Van Gundy. "Carlos Boozer was great. Deron Williams was great. They have a very fine team. I think it's shown through the second round. I think they just outplayed us."" Even if the players were outplayed, you'd think he'd only admit to being outcoached if he ever brought it up the idea of getting outplayed. Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but his double speak already wore thin for some members here last season...
I was having a bit of fun with the thread title but IMO Vecsey is throwing himself onto his own sword with this article. He's gotten carried away for finally getting a scoop. Vecsey criticizes the Chron for basing their story on one source, JVG. However that's one more source than he's using since he himself is working on just rumors and personal speculation. However what does make Vecsey's claims plausible was that Air Bull interview with all the talk about JVG's personality when he's coaching and how it might affect on his family. That was a bit of a revelation.
We are such a bunch of drama queens. We're like the kids of divorced parents, trying to take sides with one parent over the other. The fact of the matter is that any termination is going to look fishy when the media is involved. Both sides(JVG and Les) had a good idea of what was going to happen long before it happened. Both sides had competing interests, and neither side wanted to lose face in the firing. It's a sticky situation when a team fires a coach with a winning record. The team has to make themselves look hospitable to future coaches, and the coach has to make himself look hireable. In the end, JVG was probably going to be fired no matter what happened. I think he was dumb for not towing the party line and accepting the consulting position, because all this drama in the end makes him look like the bad guy to the owners. Who cares what the fans think in the end, by spring training most of us will have forgotten JVG (and I say this knowing that some people around here still haven't gotten over minutia as silly as the Boki trade).
I would pay to see JVG coach high school basketball. That would be awesome with him making those faces when his junior point guard makes a big turnover.
Vescey is trying to cover his own ass, because his story about Van Gundy retiring was wrong, like most of the stuff Vescey writes. He just wanted to get that piece of BS out again, so he doesn't look like the chump he is.
JVG knew what he was doing all along. He had his chances to sign the extensions and refuse to do so. He just didn't want to be here and I hope he does well in whatever he decides to do. I can't wait to see the changes that are sure to come to the team.
Precisely. Vecsey misreported an item that made national news (again) and is now trying to justify it - so all the UP TEMPO KIDZ are now worshipping his word as if it's descended from on high.
This sounds more credible than the jvg loving dribble that justice has been writing for the chron. JVG is a snake, so I tend to believe vescey on this one.
I backed JVG on his pt for VSpan & Novak(they had their chances but didn't make the most of them) and his handling of Bonzi(you have to be in playing shape to play). However JVG was riding the fence too much about coming back. Les had to fire him to have enough time to get a coach before the draft next month. I would like Les to interview more than just Adelman though-namely Marc Ivaroni. Whom ever it is, we need him on board before the draft.
