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Are chinese marketing contracts a competitive advantage?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by studogg, May 13, 2007.

  1. studogg

    studogg Member

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    Heading into another of the "most important" offseason's for our team, I can't help but wonder. With most, if not all, good teams being limited to the MLE, how much will individual marketability in China be an influence to come to the Rockets.

    This past year, both Chuck Hayes and Shane Battier signed endorsement deals with Chinese companies. Both of these players are under the radar types and were able to pick up significant financial gains for no other reason than being teamed with Yao Ming.

    This year, many players will have to decide between some of the elite teams as to where they will sign. With all things being equal, I'd like to think that their business manager would point to the potential revenues provided by playing for the Rockets.

    What do you think? Big benefit or big whoop?
     
  2. ghettocheeze

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    Well using that logic Kobe should just demand a trade to Houston cause his jersey is already the bestseller in China. :D
     
  3. sirbaihu

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    That's an interesting question. I know Damon Jones also has a pretty big deal over there. Do players and agents take such things into consideration? You do get to be on China's home team in the NBA, basically.
     
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    How much are Chucky and Battier making off the endorsements? It can't be in the millions can it?
     
  5. WannaFly

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    but it will not matter a lot...

    They r good players.
     
  6. txppratt

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    how sweet would it be if we got that YI fella?

    we would officially become the chinese national team. hell he plays the position we need need help in (pf).

    yao can teach him to not play like a b*tch right away instead of YI figuring it out over the next few years.

    a yao yi front court... wow.
     
  7. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    Personally, the talent we want to attract is more interested in a ring, with that said, most players don't look forward to JVG. According to an SI poll of players, he was 3rd for least liked coach in the NBA. The biggest impact on who signs with us is who we have coaching.
     
  8. groovemachine

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    It would be great to get Oden also...but how are we going to trade up to the top 10 where Yi will be? :confused:
     
  9. bjshot

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    Battier's shoe deal is 4 millions for 2 years. It should be a significant increase of his income.
     
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    If Im not mistaken it was mentioned that Battier gor a 3 yr (not 2 ) $ 4 million deal from China shoe maker Chna peak
     
  11. Jacquescas

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    i think it plays a small part, i remember thinking about it, it probably plays as much a role as Texas not having income tax incomparison to some other states.
     
  12. bjshot

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    when MJ went to a much hopeless Minesota team and skip a home team on Rrockets and a true contender team on Dallas for a 15% trade kicker, Money did count.
     
  13. studogg

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    see, I agree with this. so far, it has played no part in players decisions. However, last year was the first year that role players significantly benefited from playing with Yao in this way.

    My main question gets down to ego. Players make plenty of money, the size of the contract is really more phallic than anything else. Players want the biggest contract because they think of it as a scale on how good a player they are. This is the Mike James law (sub-named the roger clemens law).

    Yet, after watching Battier pocket a few mill and even lowly Hayes getting some extra scratch, will players looking at the MLE from us and another team, opt for us given the opportunity for more revenues from "China".
     
  14. NewYorker

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    The fact that Yao Ming's jersey is number 6 in sales in China shows how horribly bad marketing the Rockets in china has been.

    Les should be trying to actively promote the Houston Rockets as China's team over there. With all those potential Rocket fans, maybe we could afford to pay the penalty and sign some players to make us a real contender.
     
  15. Williamson

    Williamson JOSH CHRISTOPHER ONLY FAN

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    But both Yao and McGrady have been the #1 best selling jerseys in China in the past years. I think the reason they're down on the list now is because such a large portion of the demographic that would purchase their jersey already owns one.
     
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    If acheiving financial gain is the only reason a player would want to come here I for one don't want him. At the end of the day if the player doesn't have a passion for the game and for winning a title he won't do much good for our team.
     
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    Maybe not the only reason but a contributing factor for free agents?
     
  18. Duc_in_a_pond

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    a astronomical contributing factor!!! Players don't want stromile swift senerios. he signed a low contract w/ us. and we just used it to ship him back to the city he wanted to get away from. The NBA is a business, not charity
     
  19. sirbaihu

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    I don't think the Rockets have marketed badly. Every Rockets game gets shown over there, which is more than any other team, making the Rockets really like China's home team. No sweat for marketing.

    Fans can't keep buying Yao jerseys every year. What's it been, five years now? I know there are 1.3 billion people over there, but they're not all b-ball fans by a long shot. The majority of them do not even have the disposable income to be dropping on a legit NBA jersey. I don't even want to pay that much.

    By the way, having lived in China for six years, I guarantee fake NBA jerseys are selling more than legit ones. The NBA has no numbers on those.
     
  20. langal

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    If Shane Battier and Chuck Hayes got million dollar deals, then it has to be the Yao factor.

    I like those guys, but they aren't exactly the flashy superstar types. I wonder if the fine print on their contracts read "Terms voided if Yao gets traded or retires."

    ROX management should really try to trump this up to the agents.
     
    #20 langal, May 16, 2007
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